Poll: Paragon vs Renegade.

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RJ 17

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Gotta say I honestly am surprised by the turn-out. I would have thought there'd be a lot more people with this kind of mentality:

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guitarsniper

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I try to play a renegade and then always end up with something where it's just like "noooo. why the hell would i ever even think of doing that?" so yeah i'm gonna go with paragon
 

TheKruzdawg

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DustyDrB said:
I'm generally abotu 70-30 weighted towards Paragon. Shepard will punch reporters and blow up mouthy Krogans, though.
I will always, ALWAYS punch that reporter in the face. She's just asking for it and I'm politely obliging her.
 

DustyDrB

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TheKruzdawg said:
DustyDrB said:
I'm generally abotu 70-30 weighted towards Paragon. Shepard will punch reporters and blow up mouthy Krogans, though.
I will always, ALWAYS punch that reporter in the face. She's just asking for it and I'm politely obliging her.
To be fair, the paragon response to her in ME2 is really good as well. But punching is better.
 

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TheScientificIssole said:
Aircross said:
There needs to be more gray in between absolute paragon and absolute renegade.

Maybe Bioware thinks gamers can't critically think in situations that are not black and white.

Anyway, I went full Paragon in ME1 then started gaining Renegade points after I maxed Paragon in ME2.
Nope, wouldn't work. If there's a grey question and you get it on the side you don't want, most people are going to reload the save and do it again.
People may be less inclined to think of it solely in regards to the points if you weren't rewarded for being hard in one direction or the other; people don't want to be penalized for not making the black or white decision. When you make the decision solely about morality points, which is a huge failing of this system, that's how players are going to deal with it, because the game kicks them in the groin otherwise. Take that out of the equation, and put equal (if varying) results for playing it how you want, and that's what more people are going to do.
 

TheKruzdawg

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DustyDrB said:
TheKruzdawg said:
DustyDrB said:
I'm generally abotu 70-30 weighted towards Paragon. Shepard will punch reporters and blow up mouthy Krogans, though.
I will always, ALWAYS punch that reporter in the face. She's just asking for it and I'm politely obliging her.
To be fair, the paragon response to her in ME2 is really good as well. But punching is better.
I can't stand the woman, so I just can't bring myself to not punch her! Even after 3 playthroughs with different Shepards. Maybe this last time I'll give it a shot. I just don't know if I can resist punching her.
 

CrazyBlaze

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RJ 17 said:
Gotta say I honestly am surprised by the turn-out. I would have thought there'd be a lot more people with this kind of mentality:

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Thing is I think most people just play the same they would actually act. Or like to think they would ask. Somehow the characters in a bioware game seem more life like and harder to kill or hurt than say The elder scrolls. In TES it doesn't really matter if you kill a whole town. In a Bioware game it does. Characters really see you differently. I don't know if its because the character usually talks or what and that makes them feel more alive.l
 

Taynas

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I always play paragon; partially because I like being a nice guy and partially because I have a hard time imagining straight renegade Shepard as a real person. They are so bipolar, switching from pragmatic and tough to douche and racist on the drop of a hat. I wish the whole moral choice system was less binary and I wish there was a system of icons that showed what sort of tone your Shepard would take such as no-nonsense, friendly or flirty. This would allow you to shape your Shepard based not purely on the two alignments and allow you to create a nice-ish Shepard who isn't a chump sometimes but still isn't a racist or really any other mix you'd like. I wrote a whole article about it here http://bit.ly/wvXEXW because it bothered me so much.
 

Battleaxx90

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Paragon!Shep is my go-to example for being a heroic champion of justice in a video game.

Renegade!Shep is an asshole.
 

Undead Dragon King

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The common "Paragon with certain renegade interrupts" is how my canon Shepard does things, mainly for the tacky one-liners that go along with them.

Although, there are a few Renegade options that are just...wow.

 

AD-Stu

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I've got a bunch of Shepards at various points on the morality scale - like a lot of people though, my favourite is enough Paragon to fill the scale with a sprinkling of Renegade on the side. Because sometimes, you've just gotta punch a guy out a window for the lulz.

On the whole I'm also a subscriber to the view that a lot of the Renegade choices (I'm talking about the big ones here) are... let's say strategically unsound, at best, particularly once you know how the plot develops. For example:

Why would you kill the rachni when you know you'll need allies during the war with the Reapers? Sure, the first time you play the game you don't know this but every subsequent time... same goes for the Geth heretics.

And in what universe does it ever make sense to kill Wrex?
 

PaganAxe

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Reishadowen said:
Epslion.Bear said:
I go Paragon

Also burning the reporter is much more fun than punching her
What mod is this, and where can I get it?
He means choosing the charm or intimidate dialogue options. Example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NkGp18Rous
 

kommando367

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I have several characters on both sides with more on paragon and at least 1 with both meters maxed in the ME1 version of that character.
 

jensenthejman

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I play as more of a Renegon. In short, my Shepard is a dick to most people, but still doesn't carelessly endanger civilians or friends. In ME 1, I made Shepard be a hard-ass to all of the squad members at first, but then gradually warmed up to them and became nicer by the end. I was a complete prick to Ashley, but when Anderson assigned her to the Normandy, I replied to him that she was a good soldier -- while continuing to be a massive prick to her, and romanced her too. Once again proving that some women like jerks. lol Complete paragon or renegade make Shepard too static. Too boring. Making combinations like that make him more interesting.
 

Zen Toombs

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I think [canon]Shep is Paragade, and in the [Toombs]Shep playthrough he's also Paragade. However, as the stakes get higher I have been acting more and more Renegade, because the Paragon choices look to be having far too much risk.
 

TheScientificIssole

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ReinWeisserRitter said:
TheScientificIssole said:
Aircross said:
There needs to be more gray in between absolute paragon and absolute renegade.

Maybe Bioware thinks gamers can't critically think in situations that are not black and white.

Anyway, I went full Paragon in ME1 then started gaining Renegade points after I maxed Paragon in ME2.
Nope, wouldn't work. If there's a grey question and you get it on the side you don't want, most people are going to reload the save and do it again.
People may be less inclined to think of it solely in regards to the points if you weren't rewarded for being hard in one direction or the other; people don't want to be penalized for not making the black or white decision. When you make the decision solely about morality points, which is a huge failing of this system, that's how players are going to deal with it, because the game kicks them in the groin otherwise. Take that out of the equation, and put equal (if varying) results for playing it how you want, and that's what more people are going to do.
Either way, people want to role play as a character that they've made. Sometimes point systems give people a base in which to follow their character's "personality".