Poll: Parent Censorship

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Altorin

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bcponpcp27 said:
That's bullshit and that mom needs to step out of the Reagon era were censorship is fine and dandy.

Seriously, Parental censorship is one of the few things that REALLY piss me off.
That's because you're just getting out of the age where it affected you and you probably had strict parents.

Parents should have the right to keep things out of their children's hands that they don't agree with, and instill in their children their own values.

It's the only type of censorship I do agree with, fundamentally at least.

I personally might not agree that the censorship was warranted, but it is definitely not mine, or anyone elses place, to tell a parent how to raise their kid.
 

Gigaguy64

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Yes, parents should have a say in what their children are being taught.
Its there job to do what they think is best for their children until the child is old enough to make their own decisions.
 

bcponpcp27

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Altorin said:
bcponpcp27 said:
That's bullshit and that mom needs to step out of the Reagon era were censorship is fine and dandy.

Seriously, Parental censorship is one of the few things that REALLY piss me off.
That's because you're just getting out of the age where it affected you and you probably had strict parents.
I suppose your right about that. Only strict about certain things though.
 

Rensenhito

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I think the mother is a complete idiot, to be perfectly honest. Sure, Lolita deals with some sensitive issues. BIG DEAL. The fucking Bible deals with rape, incest, incestuous rape, murder, lust, greed, and greedy, lusty, incestuous murderer-rapists... and the poor girl's mother has no doubt made that bit of literature "required reading" in her household.
But anyway, literary censorship is never the right thing to do. If the girl isn't introduced to more mature materials, she'll never become a mature, functioning adult. Trust me. I've seen it happen.
 

Shru1kan

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lacktheknack said:
Normally I'd say no, but because they want a fifteen year old to read "Lolita", I'll let it slide.
Same with me, rarely do I approve of parenting like this but 15 is too young to read that. It's at the age where it could do serious harm to a kid or have them take it immaturely, neither outcome being a desirable one.
 

ma55ter_fett

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"Decisions made in ignorance are not only unproductive, they tend to magnify the problem exponentially."

A wise man once said.
 

Balaxe

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Parents need to be less controling and offer more freedom but at the same time not make their children spoiled and unruly.
 

Altorin

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bcponpcp27 said:
Altorin said:
bcponpcp27 said:
That's bullshit and that mom needs to step out of the Reagon era were censorship is fine and dandy.

Seriously, Parental censorship is one of the few things that REALLY piss me off.
That's because you're just getting out of the age where it affected you and you probably had strict parents.
I suppose your right about that. Only strict about certain things though.
my mom wouldn't let me watch ghostbusters as a kid. And to this day, I still feel like I'm doing something wrong if I watch that episode of the simpsons where homer sells his soul to devil flanders for a doughnut.

We all have instances of Parental Censorship in our past, and almost all of them are silly in retrospect, but I would hate it if I wanted to keep something I thought would harm my child away from them and someone came up to me and said "Hey, you're a fucking moron, that won't hurt your kid, grow the fuck up"
 

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DaMan1500 said:
In my AP Literature class, we just started reading the book Loleta. For those of you who don't know, it's a novel told in the perspective of a 37-year-old man trying to seduce a 12-year-old girl. Yikes. So, the mom of one of the girls in my class (who I think is 15-ish) has refused to let her daughter read this book, so the teacher has had to come up with a seperate ciriculum for this girl during the time we're reading this book. Do you think it's okay for the girl's mom to be in control of her schoolwork like this? I think no, partially because it's not the job of the parents to control what the school teaches, but also because saying you can't do something because it "offends you" leaves a lot of wiggle room. What if someone got out of science, or history, or PE, because some part of it "offended them?"
This is totally fine.

Your parents are where censorship should come from. Not school, not the government, not the church, but the people who have the responsibility of bringing you up right. I completely 100% approve of parental censorship and completely 100% disapprove of censorship in all other forms. I wouldn't do what this particular parent did, but it's her child so it's not my right to tell her what to do.
 

manaman

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Yes and no. Parents are legally responsible for their children until they reach adulthood. Therefor a parent should have some control over what content is suitable for their children. I think all parents should have a hand in deciding what is acceptable in lower education, parent associations exist all around the US. Now if the parent still has such an overprotective streak they can always pull their kids out of public school and place them in a private school that conforms more to their beliefs, or home school is always an option. Other then that, no really shouldn't be able to decide their child's coursework to that level.
 

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OF COURSE THIS IS OK!

We're always banging on about how parents should control their goddamn kids. Stop them from playing adult video games so we don't have to deal with the shitstorm from the media.

How can we tell parents to control one medium of entertainment and not another!?

I havent' read the book, but it shouldn't matter if it's the most gratuitously paedophilic book ever written or a treatise on the universal appeal of kittens. This parent is doing what she thinks is right and who the fuck are you all to tell her how to raise her kid.
 

Supreme Unleaded

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While i can see why the parent doesnt like the book im SURE that the book has a moral to it, and its not some old pervy novel or els it wouldnt be in the school.

Parental control like this bugs the shit out of me and instantly makes me pissed off for some reason.

So im gunna go...before the banhammer comes.
 

RatRace123

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It's not right, but it is the parent's choice, just some other stupid thing we have to deal woth.
 
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dthvirus said:
Xpwn3ntial said:
They do. The excuse is called religion.
Yep, my school excused religious kids from the Sexual Education part of Phys. Ed. Showers must be traumatizing for those poor kids.

And yeah, screw Lolita (it was an option for my Grade 12 final essay, heh), that girl's mom should try reading a Stephen King novel. Damn, I didn't sleep for a week after reading Cell.
The Cell was good., but it seemed to have a lot of thematic similarities to "The Stand". Which I liked much more.
 

Rhade

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It's totally her call, but in a case like this (and many, many others in which parental/religious/other etc censorship play a role) it's important to remember that kids need to actually be told and educated about things to know them.

Personally I'd someone I'm theoretically responsible for raising (though I never plan to procreate) learn about things to be aware of and know how to avoid, in the case of this book for example, sexual predators of children. It's probably better they know about them than fall victim to them by sheer ignorance. That and if it's approved in the curriculum by a half-decent school board then reading it is probably worth some educational value for a number of reasons. I'd look it up/read it myself if I suspected it might be some kind of Necronomicon.

I hold similar attitudes to other similar censored, don't-ask-don't-tell or most-parents-would-be-too-awkward-to-try subjects, though as I said, I don't really every plan to produce spawn (nor do I particularly care for children at all).
 

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Dark knifer said:
Xpwn3ntial said:
Dark knifer said:
If only system of a down was a religion... Wait... So many ideas O_O
Keep going! You might be onto something.
Ok... Your in class and your listening to your ipod. Teacher tells you to take those plugs out, you say "But it's part of my religion, if I don't listen to it then the allmighty system will strike me down". They will either let you keep it or take it away. If they take it away, play dead, and only come back when they give you your ipod back... That would be so much fun! Imagine heaven in that religion O_O
Funny thing is that I come from a Christian School and unexpectantly they dont just do a one sided view but teach both views, evolution and creationisim, god and atheisim, they belive that you should make your own choice, not be led by others. Thankefully they, like me belive in having an open mind (yet im christion and i love learning about evolution) $20 says fellow christians would brand me as a heratic
 

Necrofudge

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Yeah, it might be fun if everyone was allowed to learn without their parents' strict influence. But I think that the parents should have some leeway. Especially if the child simply can't move away and buy his own food and clothes for the rest of his life.

Alternatively though, stopping this person from reading the book isn't doing her any good. The parent is just blinding her from certain issues that may be faced in the real world. Just because a person never learned what rape is, or what murder is, doesn't mean it can't happen to them.
 

Coltelement

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I think it's okay, up until a point. I guess some parent's don't realize that one day their precious will have to leave the nest into a crime, drug, sex, temptation, toaster-pastry-filled world and deal with it.

I know some guys that were home schooled until about 10th grade in High School (15-16 years old), who went through a culture shock to get used to daily life... And they still don't fit in right...
 

TheGreatCoolEnergy

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Xpwn3ntial said:
DaMan1500 said:
What if someone got out of science, or history, because some part of it "offended them?"
They do. The excuse is called religion.
Know what is really dumb about that? What if I started a sun cult tommorrow, and one of my pillars is that All my teaching shall come from my holy texts, and that is it. In theory, I should be able to cut class as it is against my religion. But apparantly, cults don't follow this rule.