Twilight_guy said:
My knee-jerk (extra emphases on jerk (ha, ha jerk)) response as I read:
You not allow to sell your opinion as fact calling one inferior hardware is not a valid statement to make. You can compare the specs and take facts from that but I'll just retort that you can't predict the future and thus you don't know how PCs and consoles will stack up in 10 years or 5 years or 15 years or however long the OP is looking.
You can call one set of hardware inferior. Compare the things about it. I am not saying that the idea of consoles is inferior, only that the hardware within those consoles are. If they were on equal grounds, or the console hardware was greater than PC hardware, then anything that could be done on PC could be done on consoles. Since the opposite is true, and PCs can handle far more intensive stuff then consoles and display it at a higher quality, it comes out that console hardware is inferior.
Prove to me that consoles apply to a casual audience. Define casual. Tell me that the 13 year old jerk on X-box live are casuals. I think you're wrong.
Note that I said 'casual' not casual. The inverted commas need to be noted, as I do not mean it entirely literally. I have yet to find a good definition differentiating casual from hardcore. One of the arguments often used by console users in PC v Console wars that tends to put them in a more casual light is the 'its easier' argument, which implies they don't care about the quality of the game, only that its easy to set up and play, whilst the 'hardcore' (Note inverted commas) players care more about the quality than ease of use. And by quality I am mainly talking about graphics, but there are other things PCs can do that consoles can't (See BF3 Player limits, vehicle respawn times, map sizes, ect).
I'm not implying anything about the physical age of the technology so much as pointing out that the idea that consoles are killing the PC is wrong because Consoles have been around for just as long as neither has died yet thus one market cannot be slowly killing the other unless its a process so so that it takes decades in which case, judging form the current PC market, you won't have to worry about it in your lifetime.
Exactly. Point 2 was meant to be taken in a different light to point 1.
I have an undying boiling hatred for elitists. It stems from my great displeasure at fanboys. Also, technically saying one is better is saying the other is inferior by default. If one is good then the other must be less good.
As I've said, 'elitist' definition changes from person to person. Some would say that because you buy a new car and look back at that car made 30 years ago and say its not as good as your new car, you are elitist. Well, at least that's what the argument of 'PC hardware is better than console hardware' 'ELITIST' amounts to in all reality.
And yes, I imply that console HARDWARE is inferior by that statement, but I do not imply consoles on the whole are utter crap. There is preference and how easy each will be for you to obtain and all that sort of stuff that factors into whether consoles are crap or not, and that sort of thing changes from person to person. For me, consoles are crap because they have inferior hardware to PCs, are harder for me to obtain than PCs, I hate the controller, I would barely ever use it as someone else is always using my TV, and I'm not too interested in any of the exclusives. To someone else, they might have one PC in the whole house, have a hard time getting new PC parts or a new PC, someone always is using that PC for work, yet they have a spare TV, consoles are easy for them to obtain, and they have an interest in some of the exclusives. Different strokes for different folks really.
Anyways, Be sure not to conflate specs with overall quality or significance since there is more to games and systems then raw numbers.
Yep. It is the reason that I don't actively go around saying consoles are absolute crap and should stop being made, though I would question whether anything about a console is higher quality to a well made PC. As I said above, different strokes for different folks. Dependant on what works best for the individual, both PCs and Consoles have a place. From something that I read in one of the other posts, it sounds like console gaming is dying due to the high production cost of the consoles themselves for low return, but I'm just taking that at the same value as 'PC gaming is dying', until games for either, or platforms for either, stop getting made, I'm not going to believe it.
