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TopazFusion said:
PC for me.
And that's not just because I hate Apple.

PCs are better value for money, and also, I like to tinker with my computers, which you can't easily do with a Mac.
Pretty much this...

No; wait...
It IS because I hate Apple...
if they weren't so overpriced; or had the demographic of spoilt brats, I might consider getting one... But, as it stands, both those facts aren't going to change soon...
(Alright, most of the mac users I'VE met are spoilt brats... nothing against people here I haven't met)
 

Joshimodo

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There is no logical reason to go with Macs.

This is coming from someone who typically has to use them on a daily basis (career).
 

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jkvoller said:
direkiller said:
jkvoller said:
direkiller said:
Mellomi said:
Both? Is that allowed? :/

I have my MacBook I use for little things, art, and mobility, and I've got my Windows I use for gaming or anything strenuous (my little 'Book is 5 years old now, but still runs quite well).

I honestly want to understand why Apple gets so much hate. I just don't get it. Someone care to explain?
1.overpriced for the ablility of the computer:
for $2k if you buy the parts yourself you can build a godly PC(including buying the OS)
for the same price you can buy a very good PC from a company
for a mac it will get you a meh computer
27in Imac($1,999.00)
(3.1GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i5
2560 x 1440 resolution
4GB (two 2GB) memory
1TB hard drive1
AMD Radeon HD 6970M with 1G)

for some perspective that's worse then a high end from 5 years ago except for the screen size

2. Lack of comparability with games(Yes this is still an issue)

3. Lack of an ability to upgrade/switch parts
Its best not to use the iMac line in your comparison, they haven't been updated in a very long time.

Also, for people complaining about the price, I have a top of the line Macbook Pro from a year ago which I use for work, web surfing, media and emails that cost me £1500 and a top of the line gaming PC from a little over a year ago now which I exclusively use for gaming and a little bit of web surfing for when I need to update stuff or download an interesting mod that cost me £3000, so really, it's all about how you speck your machine. Plus if we're going against companies that overprice consumers, what about alienware.
alien ware gets the same bile as mac when mentioned. Its over priced under-powerd junk. but it aleast lets you mod the hardware so there is that.


as for the Imac if they cant be bothered to make it cheaper or update the hardware then it deserves to be used for the comparison. They expect people to pay 2grand for what you can get for half that(if that we don't know the disk drive speed or the ram quality)


However, if you have another desktop in mind i can change the specs but the result will be the same.


I mean im not trying to spit bile at apple. I gave 3 legitimate problems with the computers.
I hear what your saying, but I think the reason why they haven't updated the iMac lien for about 4 years now is because they want to focus on the iPhone, iPad and Macbook lines.

Comparing a 4 year old computer to a brand new one is like comparing a PS3 to whatever the next gen Xbox is called
year-year & a half
(the card was launched in dec2010 i dont know when the notebook verson, the one installed in the computer, was made but it had to be after the normal cards were launched)-spitting hairs I know

as for the rest:
if Sony charged as much as the Xbox-900 olie(or whatever there going to call it)
i would be making the same compensation.


I simply picked what they deemed was worth 2 grand and compared it.
Age is completely irrelevant if there still charging that much.
 

LongAndShort

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I'm a Mac user. My family are all Mac users. I used to be a PC user, being a gamer and all. Then I noticed that my PC barely lasted a year before shitting itself and dying while my family's Mac just kept going and going. We have great luck with Apple products, better than any other technology we've owned.
 

jkvoller

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direkiller said:
jkvoller said:
direkiller said:
jkvoller said:
direkiller said:
Mellomi said:
Both? Is that allowed? :/

I have my MacBook I use for little things, art, and mobility, and I've got my Windows I use for gaming or anything strenuous (my little 'Book is 5 years old now, but still runs quite well).

I honestly want to understand why Apple gets so much hate. I just don't get it. Someone care to explain?
1.overpriced for the ablility of the computer:
for $2k if you buy the parts yourself you can build a godly PC(including buying the OS)
for the same price you can buy a very good PC from a company
for a mac it will get you a meh computer
27in Imac($1,999.00)
(3.1GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i5
2560 x 1440 resolution
4GB (two 2GB) memory
1TB hard drive1
AMD Radeon HD 6970M with 1G)

for some perspective that's worse then a high end from 5 years ago except for the screen size

2. Lack of comparability with games(Yes this is still an issue)

3. Lack of an ability to upgrade/switch parts
Its best not to use the iMac line in your comparison, they haven't been updated in a very long time.

Also, for people complaining about the price, I have a top of the line Macbook Pro from a year ago which I use for work, web surfing, media and emails that cost me £1500 and a top of the line gaming PC from a little over a year ago now which I exclusively use for gaming and a little bit of web surfing for when I need to update stuff or download an interesting mod that cost me £3000, so really, it's all about how you speck your machine. Plus if we're going against companies that overprice consumers, what about alienware.
alien ware gets the same bile as mac when mentioned. Its over priced under-powerd junk. but it aleast lets you mod the hardware so there is that.


as for the Imac if they cant be bothered to make it cheaper or update the hardware then it deserves to be used for the comparison. They expect people to pay 2grand for what you can get for half that(if that we don't know the disk drive speed or the ram quality)


However, if you have another desktop in mind i can change the specs but the result will be the same.


I mean im not trying to spit bile at apple. I gave 3 legitimate problems with the computers.
I hear what your saying, but I think the reason why they haven't updated the iMac lien for about 4 years now is because they want to focus on the iPhone, iPad and Macbook lines.

Comparing a 4 year old computer to a brand new one is like comparing a PS3 to whatever the next gen Xbox is called
year-year & a half
(the card was launched in dec2010 i dont know when the notebook verson, the one installed in the computer, was made but it had to be after the normal cards were launched)-spitting hairs I know

as for the rest:
if Sony charged as much as the Xbox-900 olie(or whatever there going to call it)
i would be making the same compensation.


I simply picked what they deemed was worth 2 grand and compared it.
Age is completely irrelevant if there still charging that much.
TBH I don't care one way or the other when it comes to price. If I can afford, I'll buy it
 

Kirky

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I like both, though if I had to choose between them, I'd probably go PC, simply because of the gaming support and the fact that, assuming we're talking about custom desktops, they are far more cost-effective.

Right now, I have a PC that I use for gaming and media consumption (films, TV shows, that sort of thing) that's hooked up to my TV and a 2010 MacBook Pro that I use as my portable computer (writing, some very light media editing, web browsing; fairly average computer tasks), and as an accompaniment to my PC at home. I bought the MacBook for two reasons: firstly, at the time, there were few Windows laptops that could match its battery life, and those few that did cost roughly the same amount anyway, and had either inferior or identical hardware. My other reason was, in all honestly, I was going to be spending rather a lot of money anyway, and thought I'd find out what all the fuss around Macs was about.

I've never regretted my purchase. Since buying into the ecosystem, I've really enjoyed using OS X. It's subjective, obviously, but I've genuinely prefer the user experience. I'm fairly sure it's. at least in part, down to the keyboard and trackpad, particularly the trackpad, which are far, far better to use than any I've had experience with on Windows laptops. Chiclet keyboards similar to Apple's are becoming increasingly common on more premium laptops, and I'm all for that, but as far as I'm aware, the trackpad still hasn't been matched.

On price, I'll agree that you pay a significant premium, but it's not as significant as you might think, providing you compare the right models. With regards to desktops, iMacs and Mac Pros, the premium is both large and somewhat ridiculous. I doubt all but the most devout of Apple fans would debate you there, though they would be perfectly fair in accepting that premium; the aesthetic design, Mac OS X, warranty and general fit and finish are just worth it to some people, and that's understandable. Equally, some people rely on Macs for their work, and have no choice but to pay the extra.

The new MacBook Pro ('retina' display and all) is absurdly expensive, but equally, its specs, when compared to those of other, similarly priced laptops of similar size, are both impressive and somewhat unique. While I've never liked Apple's 'retina' marketing, the display is undeniably impressive, and without compare in the current laptop market. Equally, the relatively large SSDs, Ivy Bridge processors and Kepler GPU (a 650M, I believe) are all currently premium, relatively uncommon features, and make the seven hour battery life that much more impressive (well, not the SSDs, but you see my point). And then there's the matter of size; I challenge anyone to find a similarly specced laptop with the same weight and thickness. Does this make it worth the price? Well, to most people (including myself) no, but there is a segment of the market with both valid uses for, and the cash to afford, those features.

When you enter the ultrabook market, things get a lot more interesting. The MacBook Air, particularly after the recent price drop (the new models cost £100 less than the old) is priced competitively with other laptops in that category, with similar (or superior) internal hardware, the same superb trackpad and keyboard that have made using my MacBook Pro such a pleasant experience, and best-in-class battery life. If you're shopping for a ultrabook, you expect to pay a premium anyway, and at the moment, provided you don't rely on certain Windows-exclusive programs (and even then, you can dual boot very easily), I really don't see why you wouldn't consider, and be strongly tempted by, the MBA.

As ultrabooks are quickly becoming the go-to machines of journalists of all varieties for work (incredibly thin and light, impressive performance, particularly for the size, and lengthy battery life: all features that come in particularly handy in a profession that involves a lot of travelling, whether to and from developers and events, or simply to and from work, as a lot of journalists - particularly those in the gaming industry - do a lot of work from home), there is at least one class of legitimate professional that doesn't do much in the way of video editing, that still has a good reason to go Mac.

And then there's simple personal preference, which is far too often overlooked as a valid factor in one's choice of, well, anything.

I've been thinking about this subject a lot lately, and could go on, but most people probably haven't even read to this point.

To finish, I'd just like to point out that there's no love lost between me and Apple. I've never really liked the company (though, honestly, I've found that it's best to avoid either hating or liking a particular technology manufacturer all that much; it limits your options) and have absolutely no loyalty to them. I use an Android phone, and have a Windows gaming PC. Equally, I own and use a MacBook Pro and an iPad.
 

theseworlds

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I have a mac, and love it. Don't need a PC; have a PS3 for games. They're just so damn easy to use.
 

Heronblade

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Apple products tend to be priced 50-100% more than the equivalent Windows based product, without actually performing significantly better, and tend to only work with other Apple products. Seriously, its like Jobs was attempting to create his own micro-monopoly. I laugh my ass off every time an Apple user calls Microsoft greedy (not saying they aren't)

The primary saving grace of a Mac is in terms of being user friendly. Which is great for someone that doesn't have a bloody clue what they're doing. For those of us that do know what we are doing however, and actually like to tinker, it is far too restrictive.
 

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Well..you are asking on a gaming forum.. which is like the equivalent to asking the same question on an apple forum :p

As a gamer: PC because next to no game developers support Mac

As a person: I'm still going to say PC.. mainly because even the most expensive mac's are less powerful than most reasonably priced PC's. Not to say I don't like mac's though, I love their nice interface,reliability and ease of use its just that they weren't really made for me..because im not graphics artist or anything.
 

DragonStorm247

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The only reasons to use a Mac are if you're a graphic designer/other kind of artist, or a musical composer.

Other than that, if you buy a Mac, you're pretty much just paying for the logo. I'm considering just buying an Apple sticker and putting it on my (Windows) PC just to troll people.
 

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deadman91 said:
I'm a Mac user. My family are all Mac users. I used to be a PC user, being a gamer and all. Then I noticed that my PC barely lasted a year before shitting itself and dying while my family's Mac just kept going and going. We have great luck with Apple products, better than any other technology we've owned.
I do not know from how many people I heard this so far.

What are you doing to your computers that they stop working after only a year? Mine is over 7 years old now and works fine. The one I had for 7 years before that one also still works fine (with its first installation of Windows XP even).
 

hazabaza1

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Mac always just looked too clean for me. I like my computer looking more robust.
 

Revolutionary

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PC, because I like being able to upgrade my hardware if needed. Also Mac OS drives me insane with it's awful file system, and frustrating UI.
 

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loc978 said:
Assuming you can get your hands on a copy of windows and your mac is relatively new, you can game like any other PC owner with a little work.
http://www.apple.com/support/bootcamp/

The problem with gaming on a mac is entirely surmountable. Mac OS may not run many games, but Mac hardware can easily run Windows.
Unfortunately, I try to run through parallels but my macs are old, running OS 10.5. As you can imagine, its a little frustrating. Especially when buying a new mac will burn a massive gaping hole in my wallet.
 

Thaliur

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Xixikal said:
loc978 said:
Assuming you can get your hands on a copy of windows and your mac is relatively new, you can game like any other PC owner with a little work.
http://www.apple.com/support/bootcamp/

The problem with gaming on a mac is entirely surmountable. Mac OS may not run many games, but Mac hardware can easily run Windows.
Unfortunately, I try to run through parallels but my macs are old, running OS 10.5. As you can imagine, its a little frustrating. Especially when buying a new mac will burn a massive gaping hole in my wallet.
Well, you could still just install Windows on it. After all some operating systems are able to adapt themselves to the hardware...
 

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Thaliur said:
deadman91 said:
I'm a Mac user. My family are all Mac users. I used to be a PC user, being a gamer and all. Then I noticed that my PC barely lasted a year before shitting itself and dying while my family's Mac just kept going and going. We have great luck with Apple products, better than any other technology we've owned.
I do not know from how many people I heard this so far.

What are you doing to your computers that they stop working after only a year? Mine is over 7 years old now and works fine. The one I had for 7 years before that one also still works fine (with its first installation of Windows XP even).
Honestly? No idea. I used it normally. The hard drive would stop working. The disk drive would stop working. It would decide to stop turning on when I told it. It would refuse to connect to the internet. I would diagnose, get help, fix, replace. Then something else would go wrong. It got expensive. My mates who knew computers better than I did actually came out and said I had the worst luck they'd ever seen. I think I just have better luck with Macs.
 

Thaliur

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deadman91 said:
Thaliur said:
deadman91 said:
I'm a Mac user. My family are all Mac users. I used to be a PC user, being a gamer and all. Then I noticed that my PC barely lasted a year before shitting itself and dying while my family's Mac just kept going and going. We have great luck with Apple products, better than any other technology we've owned.
I do not know from how many people I heard this so far.

What are you doing to your computers that they stop working after only a year? Mine is over 7 years old now and works fine. The one I had for 7 years before that one also still works fine (with its first installation of Windows XP even).
Honestly? No idea. I used it normally. The hard drive would stop working. The disk drive would stop working. It would decide to stop turning on when I told it. It would refuse to connect to the internet. I would diagnose, get help, fix, replace. Then something else would go wrong. It got expensive. My mates who knew computers better than I did actually came out and said I had the worst luck they'd ever seen. I think I just have better luck with Macs.
Hmm, your friend's evaluation of the situation does sound quite accurate ^^

I'm like that with appliances, now that I think about it. Where I used to work, car diagnostics computers got significantly worse testing results whenever I did the testing, and once the whole cash register system of a really big store crashed as soon as I tried to pay...