jibjab963 said:
wrecker77 said:
Have a taste of me canonball ya Land luberin balarina!
But both are killed by zombies. Oh wait, this isnt a genre wars thred. Zombies still win though.
Seriously though ppirates kick ass.
Something better then just zombies would be zombie pirates.
Or even... zombie pirate robot ninja's!
On who would win in a fight... Tough call. Ninja's have stealth, elite training and lethal hand to hand weaponry. Pirates have big ships, big guns, experience (generally they were ex-privateers who were used to harassing a hostile foreign powers shipping before becoming pirates when peace was made and they found themselves out of buisiness) and more modern weaponry. I think that the ninja would win in the end. The slow-reloading and inaccurate rifles of the time weren't a huge deal better than the Japanese longbow outside of armour piercing ability, and neither side wore armour anyway. The cutlass is weaker than the katana while being single-edged (throwing away, quite literally, the edge western swords had over katanas on being double-edged, an important advantage) The place the pirate might have an advantage is at medium range. A pistol is more accurate than a shuriken... but on the other hand, a shuriken would be faster to throw and is much faster to "reload" (reach in and pull out another one instead of having to go through a complex reloading procedure.) Ninjas would also be better trained than a pirate. The one time a pirate might have an advantage is in experience. If the ninja was new to the job, literally just out of the dojo, he's likely to be facing an ex-privateer, someone who has killed before and is used to the chaos of fighting. Those few moments of hesitation that a rookie ninja might have in taking a life might be all it takes for everything to go to hell, as Snake of Metal Gear Solid would no doubt tell you.
Overall, I'd say Ninjas would win, by merit of years of training and equipment. On the other hand, ninjas would get trounced if they were forced to engage pirates on sea. Medieval Japan didn't have a navy to speak of, while pirates generally used speedy frigates armed with light cannon. Even if a clan of ninjas got hold of these ships, they'd still have to learn to use them and overcome a vast experience difference. On the other hand, the Romans managed this against Carthage, so maybe a ninja victory at sea wouldn't be impossible...
Overall, the more effective side is the ninja... just watch out for those cannonballs.