No it's not a planet. Everyone knows Pluto is a dog. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluto_(Disney)
It's a democratic system. The majority of the IAU members voted in favour of the definition that was adopted, so regardless of what individuals think, the official stance of the organisation responsible for such definitions is that Pluto falls into the category of dwarf planet.Maze1125 said:And?
It's still not a case of "Scientists say it's not a planet." but a case of "The majority of scientists that attended that meeting say it's not a planet." which is completely different.
And?Dr_Matt said:It's a democratic system. The majority of the IAU members voted in favour of the definition that was adopted, so regardless of what individuals think, the official stance of the organisation responsible for such definitions is that Pluto falls into the category of dwarf planet.Maze1125 said:And?
It's still not a case of "Scientists say it's not a planet." but a case of "The majority of scientists that attended that meeting say it's not a planet." which is completely different.
We've already covered the objective nature of definitions earlier in the thread.Maze1125 said:And?
That doesn't make it objective.
The definition is subject to the voting of the IAU. If the scientists that think Pluto should be a planet gain enough support, a new vote could be called.
Good for you.Dr_Matt said:We've already covered the objective nature of definitions earlier in the thread.Maze1125 said:And?
That doesn't make it objective.
The definition is subject to the voting of the IAU. If the scientists that think Pluto should be a planet gain enough support, a new vote could be called.
Read it at your leisure.Maze1125 said:Good for you.
And what conclusion did you high and mighty "earlier in the thread" people come to?
No.Dr_Matt said:Read it at your leisure.Maze1125 said:Good for you.
And what conclusion did you high and mighty "earlier in the thread" people come to?
What about gas giants and asteroids?PuppetMaster said:If a rock orbits a larger rock it's a moon, if a rock orbits a star it's a planet. With me so far, science?
asteroids are also reffered to as "minor planets" and I'm not saying planets have to be rock, but it just so happens that Pluto isMaze1125 said:What about gas giants and asteroids?PuppetMaster said:If a rock orbits a larger rock it's a moon, if a rock orbits a star it's a planet. With me so far, science?
By who?PuppetMaster said:asteroids are also reffered to as "minor planetsMaze1125 said:What about gas giants and asteroids?PuppetMaster said:If a rock orbits a larger rock it's a moon, if a rock orbits a star it's a planet. With me so far, science?
Using this definition could you imagine memorizing the millions of planets in grade school.PuppetMaster said:If a rock orbits a larger rock it's a moon, if a rock orbits a star it's a planet. With me so far, science?
dictionary definition. also called planetoid, but noone uses that termMaze1125 said:By who?PuppetMaster said:asteroids are also reffered to as "minor planetsMaze1125 said:What about gas giants and asteroids?PuppetMaster said:If a rock orbits a larger rock it's a moon, if a rock orbits a star it's a planet. With me so far, science?
Since you asked nicely, here's the abbreviated version. The linguist/philosopher maintains that scientific definitions are subjective. The scientist maintains that they are not (at least in the physical sciences). There was an agreement to disagree on the point.Maze1125 said:I'm not going to read huge amounts of someone else's argument just because you're too far up your own arse to have the common human courtesy to explain your point of view to someone you started an argument with.
lol ya, that would be pretty rediculous, but I don't make the rules, just call em like I see emDarknacht said:Using this definition could you imagine memorizing the millions of planets in grade school.PuppetMaster said:If a rock orbits a larger rock it's a moon, if a rock orbits a star it's a planet. With me so far, science?
Actually I'd say the whole matter is a subjective thing. This can be shown by the fact that a debate even existed.vivaldiscool said:If the scientists say it's not a planet, then it's not a planet. It's not like this is a subjective thing.
That one was used officially prior to the '06 definitions of planet, dwarf planet, small solar system body, etc.PuppetMaster said:dictionary definition. also called planetoid, but noone uses that term