Poll: Pluto, is it still a planet?

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Fairee

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Cargando said:
Geek@Heart said:
Um yeah, sure I do. Maybe I should read the other posts on here, but I don't know of any valid reason why it wouldn't be a planet.
Too small. There, that wasn't so hard?
Emphasis on valid. I don't see that as a good enough reason. Surely if it was big enough for them to call it a planet in the first place then saying it's too small now is a bit strange....
 

Lord George

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Its oblivious a plot by those damn plutonians, don't believe there lies they want you to ignore pluto so they can build there fleet of invincible teapots!!!arghaaaaa
 

Cargando

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Assassin Xaero said:
vivaldiscool said:
If the scientists say it's not a planet, then it's not a planet. It's not like this is a subjective thing.
Didn't scientist also say that there was going to be an ice age in the 70's and say that there is global warming now? And, shortly after they said Pluto wasn't a planet, they declared some big ball of gas in another solar system a planet... Oh, and how could I forget... scientist did all these tests on bumble bees, looking at the size of their wings, their body eight, and everything... And they came to the conclusion that it is physically impossible for bumble bees to fly...
To be fair, with the bees you've picked an annoying one there. As to the the gas-planet, what did you think Saturn and Jupiter were? Global Warming is happening, and the bloke who predicted the 70's ice age was one of those Doomsday nutjobs.
 

Cargando

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Geek@Heart said:
Cargando said:
Geek@Heart said:
Um yeah, sure I do. Maybe I should read the other posts on here, but I don't know of any valid reason why it wouldn't be a planet.
Too small. There, that wasn't so hard?
Emphasis on valid. I don't see that as a good enough reason. Surely if it was big enough for them to call it a planet in the first place then saying it's too small now is a bit strange....
We didn't know better then, that's like calling someone a bad artist by the paintings they did in nursery.
 

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Assassin Xaero said:
vivaldiscool said:
If the scientists say it's not a planet, then it's not a planet. It's not like this is a subjective thing.
Didn't scientist also say that there was going to be an ice age in the 70's and say that there is global warming now? And, shortly after they said Pluto wasn't a planet, they declared some big ball of gas in another solar system a planet...
kaziard said:
vivaldiscool said:
If the scientists say it's not a planet, then it's not a planet. It's not like this is a subjective thing.
they also said man cant fly, the victorians had discovered everything possible and the world is round (which it clearly isnt)

just saying "the scientists" arnt always right :p
As Good as it is to have a questioning mind, there comes a time when you have to realize that such things must be questioned for logical fallices, not what suites your fancy. This is quite obviously an entirely different case than the afformentioned examples. For one, This isn't an example of discovery or prediction, it's a simple matter of reclassification. Is it valuable? Yes. But it can't be "wrong" per-se since they only changed the faulty paremeters of what makes a planet, rather than what pluto was thought to be.

For another. Do I really have to spell out how stupid it is to say "They could say it's wrong in the future, so I'm going to stick with what they know is wrong now."?
 

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Avykins said:
Of course it is a planet. It always has been. I do not care if some dumbass "scientists" decide to waste time and say it is not. Always has been, always will be.
Always? You mean, like before it was discovered?

Only recently they have noticed that it's not really a planet.

Also, Earth was "always" considered FLAT a long, long time ago. Then why did they stopped thinking this way? Because they've learned the facts, and so should you.

Rebelhobnob said:
I said yes, because it's called a dwarf "planet".
Dwarf planets do not count as planets. You might count some big moons as planets, but it doesn't make them so.
 

Cargando

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vivaldiscool said:
Assassin Xaero said:
vivaldiscool said:
If the scientists say it's not a planet, then it's not a planet. It's not like this is a subjective thing.
Didn't scientist also say that there was going to be an ice age in the 70's and say that there is global warming now? And, shortly after they said Pluto wasn't a planet, they declared some big ball of gas in another solar system a planet...
kaziard said:
vivaldiscool said:
If the scientists say it's not a planet, then it's not a planet. It's not like this is a subjective thing.
they also said man cant fly, the victorians had discovered everything possible and the world is round (which it clearly isnt)

just saying "the scientists" arnt always right :p
As Good as it is to have a questioning mind, there comes a time when you have to realize that such things must be questioned for logical fallices, not what suites your fancy. This is quite obviously an entirely different case than the afformentioned examples. For one, This isn't an example of discovery or prediction, it's a simple matter of reclassification. Is it valuable? Yes. But it can't be "wrong" per-se since the only changed that faulty paremeters of what makes a planet, rather than what pluto was thought to be.

For another. Do I really have to spell out how stupid it is to say "They could say it's wrong in the future, so I'm going to stick with what they know is wrong now."?
I realise that, it's just that I'm arguing against people calling it a planet just because it's more convenient.
 

Ravenbom

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It's really not a full planet. It's orbit is eccentric, not on the same plane as the other planets and passes through Neptune's orbit. It has a moon and a very very thin atmosphere, but really, Charon is almost the same size as Pluto so they actually orbit each other.

If Pluto was in the asteroid belt with Charon, and it had a normal orbit, we'd probably consider it a planetoid.

We really didn't have a classification that we all agreed upon until recently so we called it a planet. Now its a dwarf planet, and that's due in part to the fact that we've found other dwarf planets like Eris and Ceres.
Eris is bigger than Pluto and even has its own moon. Its the find that made us define planet and its why we now have the term dwarf planet.
 

keitarobg

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officially - NO! There's nothing to discuss. It's NOT a planet anymore. This is a stupid thread - it's like discussing why we call the blood pumping muscle in the chest a heart and not a wibller-dibbler.
 

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Cargando said:
vivaldiscool said:
Assassin Xaero said:
vivaldiscool said:
If the scientists say it's not a planet, then it's not a planet. It's not like this is a subjective thing.
Didn't scientist also say that there was going to be an ice age in the 70's and say that there is global warming now? And, shortly after they said Pluto wasn't a planet, they declared some big ball of gas in another solar system a planet...
kaziard said:
vivaldiscool said:
If the scientists say it's not a planet, then it's not a planet. It's not like this is a subjective thing.
they also said man cant fly, the victorians had discovered everything possible and the world is round (which it clearly isnt)

just saying "the scientists" arnt always right :p
As Good as it is to have a questioning mind, there comes a time when you have to realize that such things must be questioned for logical fallices, not what suites your fancy. This is quite obviously an entirely different case than the afformentioned examples. For one, This isn't an example of discovery or prediction, it's a simple matter of reclassification. Is it valuable? Yes. But it can't be "wrong" per-se since the only changed that faulty paremeters of what makes a planet, rather than what pluto was thought to be.

For another. Do I really have to spell out how stupid it is to say "They could say it's wrong in the future, so I'm going to stick with what they know is wrong now."?
I realise that, it's just that I'm arguing against people calling it a planet just because it's more convenient.
Umm, I think you actually agree with me.
 

Cargando

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vivaldiscool said:
Cargando said:
vivaldiscool said:
Assassin Xaero said:
vivaldiscool said:
If the scientists say it's not a planet, then it's not a planet. It's not like this is a subjective thing.
Didn't scientist also say that there was going to be an ice age in the 70's and say that there is global warming now? And, shortly after they said Pluto wasn't a planet, they declared some big ball of gas in another solar system a planet...
kaziard said:
vivaldiscool said:
If the scientists say it's not a planet, then it's not a planet. It's not like this is a subjective thing.
they also said man cant fly, the victorians had discovered everything possible and the world is round (which it clearly isnt)

just saying "the scientists" arnt always right :p
As Good as it is to have a questioning mind, there comes a time when you have to realize that such things must be questioned for logical fallices, not what suites your fancy. This is quite obviously an entirely different case than the afformentioned examples. For one, This isn't an example of discovery or prediction, it's a simple matter of reclassification. Is it valuable? Yes. But it can't be "wrong" per-se since the only changed that faulty paremeters of what makes a planet, rather than what pluto was thought to be.

For another. Do I really have to spell out how stupid it is to say "They could say it's wrong in the future, so I'm going to stick with what they know is wrong now."?
I realise that, it's just that I'm arguing against people calling it a planet just because it's more convenient.
Umm, I think you actually agree with me.
Am I? I haven't really been paying attention to what I've been typing...
 

Cargando

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Anyway, in conclusion, it's undoubtedly, undisputably not a planet. For the time being.
 

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wilted_orchid said:
I just did my GCSEs and they actually had to write on the Physics paper, "Consider Pluto a planet," so I'm just doing what AQA told me when I say yes.
Then you are nothing buy a pawn in a fascist state!

j/k.

Honestly I'm not really bothered. Come to think of it, why did I read this thread in the first place. Has something happened recently to change people's perception of Pluto?
 

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Isn't it considered a dwarf planet?... doesn't that mean its still technically a planet, but its also not a planet.... Yeah that made no sense, I'll just say I think its a planet.
 

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Scientists say it isn't anymore.


But I've had it drilled into me since childhood that Pluto was a planet. I mean, what about Sailor Pluto from Sailor Moon? So, I still tend to think of Pluto as one of the nine planets--er, see, right there. Eight planets. Eight. I can't get it in my head. I still think nine planets.