Poll: Pokemon X/Y info.

[The White Hunter]

I feel like while we will be getting new Pokemon, some evolutions will be introduced. For example:

Delibird is so friggin' cute. But he needs an evolution. What other way then the 6th generation?

By that I hope you mean Delibird needs an evolution so that he isn't completely a waste of a team space in any given situation.

I'm hoping for a pure steel type that isn't useless, and maybe a couple of decent/durable partial ice types. Poison could do with some loving this generation too if you ask me.

I really wanan see those starter evolutions though.

He's so adorable. I just want him to have something, you know?

I like his design, he's cool and unique but he's so clearly designed for a stupid anime short and nothing else. Terrible stats, terrible movepool, terrible typing.

Needs an evolution, desperately so.

Oh and I thought of osmething else: I DO NOT WANT ANOTHER FUCKING BABY ADDED TO A PREVIOUS CREATURE D=<

Bonsly and Mime Jr were not good ideas and neither was Budew.

 

[Lilani]

By the way, while we've got a thread full of Pokemon experts here, is it actually confirmed that Fennekin is a fire/fighting type or is it all still just speculation? Honestly there's been so much butthurt over the possibility of it being fire/fighting I can't tell if any of it is true.

And since somebody asked, my first experience with Pokemon was Pokemon blue. It's funny, I have two cousins about my same age and my family had the great idea of buying us all GBCs for Christmas and Pokemon games since we all loved the show so much. But they didn't realize the different colors actually meant the games were different and offered different experiences, so when they bought the games they just thought "Hey, three colors, three kids! We'll give them each one color, won't that be cute!" And from that day forward (or at least until Gold and Silver came out) the two of us were jealous of the other cousin who had Yellow, and his awesome Pikachu that followed him outside the poke ball.

 

[SD-Fiend]

By the way, while we've got a thread full of Pokemon experts here, is it actually confirmed that Fennekin is a fire/fighting type or is it all still just speculation? Honestly there's been so much butthurt over the possibility of it being fire/fighting I can't tell if any of it is true.

just speculation and making fun of the trend of fire/fighters. At this point only the typing of their first forms is known and they're all pure in their respective types.
My hope is that they're going for a journey to the west theme with Infenape being Wu-kong, Emboar being Pigsy,and Froakie being a water/fighter based on Sandy. This is of course just a wild guess.

 

[SSJBlastoise]

I really want them to use the follow system from HG/SS but they don't seem to be from the looks of the demo footage. A lot of the people I've spoken to really liked that part, but Nintendo seem to be in the habit of not listening to the fans with this particular franchise, as seen with no decent Wii pokemon game. What are your opinions on the follow system?

I absolutely loved that about HG/SS =) It was so simple but awesome - it felt a lot more like the Pokemon in your team were on the journey WITH you and not just your tools for combat.

I'm with you guys, I'm disappointed it didn't carry on with Black and White.

hey guys my first pokemon game experience was with pokemon emrald. what about yours ?

Mine was blue and I think I still have it somewhere.

Thanks so far for the support guys

With the Sylveon typing I originally thought it would be flying from the way it looks (parts floating around it) but from the video revealing it there didn't really appear to be any flying type moves and they all looked like they might be normal type attacks but that's just a guess because I could only recognise swift.

Below is a theory that popped up a week or two ago about the type of Sylveon (I'm not really a big fan of this theory but it is interesting). It suggests that each eeveelution has a pairing where each pair has one type advantage and the one left over was Jolteon which means Sylveon could be either flying or ground. The flaw I find in this is why did the person that came up with this leave Jolteon last? Why isn't Vaporeon it's pairing? Anyway, it is just a theory that someone has come up with.

Spoiler: Sylveon Theory

 

[Jiffex]

By the way, while we've got a thread full of Pokemon experts here, is it actually confirmed that Fennekin is a fire/fighting type or is it all still just speculation? Honestly there's been so much butthurt over the possibility of it being fire/fighting I can't tell if any of it is true.

And since somebody asked, my first experience with Pokemon was Pokemon blue. It's funny, I have two cousins about my same age and my family had the great idea of buying us all GBCs for Christmas and Pokemon games since we all loved the show so much. But they didn't realize the different colors actually meant the games were different and offered different experiences, so when they bought the games they just thought "Hey, three colors, three kids! We'll give them each one color, won't that be cute!" And from that day forward (or at least until Gold and Silver came out) the two of us were jealous of the other cousin who had Yellow, and his awesome Pikachu that followed him outside the poke ball.

It's more people saying they don't want another one after 3 in a row, nothing has been confirmed about any of the starter evolutions.

 

[Dryk]

Oh and I thought of osmething else: I DO NOT WANT ANOTHER FUCKING BABY ADDED TO A PREVIOUS CREATURE D=<

Bonsly and Mime Jr were not good ideas and neither was Budew.

Babies is generally are completely useless. Wynaut is the only good one because it brings extra move options

 

[emeraldrafael]

two questions.

1)

... such as the speculation over the typing of Sylveon. ...

didnt they say already its going to be flying or was that just guessing itself?

2) not to take the wind out of your sails or anyhting, but why couldnt escapists simply check serebii or CoroCoro, two sights where information will start and be trusted from. I dont know if this exacctly warrants a continuous thread that would be either bumped from death or have to be made again and again.

 

[Something Amyss]

I'd like them to reboot the franchise. They have too many Pokemon as it is. EVs are completely insane, and I can't see how someone without an internet conection could find out about them. IVs too, but they're even worse.

I don't see how any of that really matters unless you're breeding specifically for online competitions, though. At which point, you probably have an internet connection.

 

[DragonStorm247]

Sylveon will either be Flying, or a new type. I could see it being Light, shold they add it.

 

[2xDouble]

With the Sylveon typing I originally thought it would be flying from the way it looks (parts floating around it) but from the video revealing it there didn't really appear to be any flying type moves and they all looked like they might be normal type attacks but that's just a guess because I could only recognise swift.

I see Sylveon using moves with strong resemblances to known Eevee staples: Quick Attack, Swift, Last Resort... and a billowing attack that looks suspiciously like Gust or Hurricane. I could be wrong, of course... assuming the visuals look in any way like the previous games' animations when generations tend to change up the imagery.

Below is a theory that popped up a week or two ago about the type of Sylveon (I'm not really a big fan of this theory but it is interesting). It suggests that each eeveelution has a pairing where each pair has one type advantage and the one left over was Jolteon which means Sylveon could be either flying or ground. The flaw I find in this is why did the person that came up with this leave Jolteon last? Why isn't Vaporeon it's pairing? Anyway, it is just a theory that someone has come up with.

Spoiler: Sylveon Theory

There may be some more complexity to this theory, I think. Thus:


Flareon (fire) is strong against Glaceon (ice) and Leafeon (grass), weak against Vaporeon (water): 2-1
Vaporeon (water) is strong against Flareon (fire); weak against Leafeon (grass) and Jolteon (electric): 1-2
Jolteon (electric) is strong against Vaporeon (water)... 1-0
Espeon (psychic) is weak against Umbreon (dark)... 0-1
Umbreon (dark) is strong against Espeon (psychic)... 1-0
Glaceon (ice) is strong against Leafeon (grass); weak against Flareaon (fire): 1-1
Leafeon (grass) is strong against Vaporeon (water); weak against Glaceon (ice) and Flareon (fire): 1-2

Strangely enough, expanding the theory leaves Espeon as odd-eon-out, having no type advantages and one weakness.
Umbreon and Jolteon have no weaknesses and exactly one strength;
Vaporeon and Glaceon have one strength and two weaknesses;
Glaceon is the only one who breaks even, and Flareon is the only -eon with two advantages.

Based purely on this type dis/advantage data:
To balance Sylveon with the other -eons, it must be weak to Ice and Ice alone (among these types) while having no other type advantages (again, among these). This pairs off Glaceon with Flareon at 2-1 and Sylveon with Espeon at 0-1. That means, if I read the chart [http://serebii.net/games/type.shtml] correctly, that Sylveon must be the Dragon type.

 

[General Twinkletoes]

Misspelling their own translations again... come on GameFreak.

Sylpheon (or Sylfeon) is pretty obviously a Flying type Eevee-lution. Its colors and styling suggests Skyla, the Flying-type gym leader, may be involved in its evolution. She has a similar scarf and butterfly barrettes.

It's not mispelled, the real name is Sylveon. I don't really see how a similarity to a gym leader suggests it's type, when have pokemon been based off gym leaders? Honestly, all the type theories I've seen have really been stretching it, none of them have made a whole lot of sense.

Anyway, OT: I'll keep watching this thread if you keep updating.

 

[Bleidd Whitefalcon]

Actually, I'd be somewhat interested if they add a fourth-stage (not an alternate) evolution to some Pokemon, perhaps the starters, to make them a little more interesting/worthwhile in competitive play. (yes. Swampert, Infernape, and Blaziken also need more powerful versions in spite of being the only OU starters.)

Isn't Blaziken in Ubers now that it has Speed Boost?

 

[SSJBlastoise]

There may be some more complexity to this theory, I think. Thus:


Flareon (fire) is strong against Glaceon (ice) and Leafeon (grass), weak against Vaporeon (water): 2-1
Vaporeon (water) is strong against Flareon (fire); weak against Leafeon (grass) and Jolteon (electric): 1-2
Jolteon (electric) is strong against Vaporeon (water)... 1-0
Espeon (psychic) is weak against Umbreon (dark)... 0-1
Umbreon (dark) is strong against Espeon (psychic)... 1-0
Glaceon (ice) is strong against Leafeon (grass); weak against Flareaon (fire): 1-1
Leafeon (grass) is strong against Vaporeon (water); weak against Glaceon (ice) and Flareon (fire): 1-2

Strangely enough, expanding the theory leaves Espeon as odd-eon-out, having no type advantages and one weakness.
Umbreon and Jolteon have no weaknesses and exactly one strength;
Vaporeon and Glaceon have one strength and two weaknesses;
Glaceon is the only one who breaks even, and Flareon is the only -eon with two advantages.

Based purely on this type dis/advantage data:
To balance Sylveon with the other -eons, it must be weak to Ice and Ice alone (among these types) while having no other type advantages (again, among these). This pairs off Glaceon with Flareon at 2-1 and Sylveon with Espeon at 0-1. That means, if I read the chart [http://serebii.net/games/type.shtml] correctly, that Sylveon must be the Dragon type.

This seems to have a lot of thought behind it so well done. Unfortunately the theory that was originally shown doesn't really prove anything, I just thought it was a little different. It would be cool for a dragon type eeveelution but based on it's appearance I can't really see Sylveon being a dragon type.

Anyway, OT: I'll keep watching this thread if you keep updating.

Thanks I'll be trying to update it as soon as info is released but depending on the times I might be a bit late due to university or other commitments but I will endeavour to update it as soon as possible.

 

[Buizel91]

If Sylveon is a normal type imma be pissed...

BUT...who's to say this will be the only Eeveelution for this Gen? Both times new Eeveelutions have been created (gen 2 and Gen 4) there have always been 2...we could see Fighting and steel...or fighting and rock...

Also, the Grass starter is cute as hell...i want it.

 

[Limecake]

I'm really excited for the new Pokemon games, I'm even playing black (the original) over again to catch pokemon for the new gen, I'm really interested in the water starter's evolutions and the fire starter is a close second.

it helps that my brother in law is going to be playing the new gen with me so I'll be able to complete the dex hopefully.

 

[recruit00]

Here's what I would like to see out of the mentioned pokemon.

Chespin becoming Grass/Fighting
Froakie becoming Water/Dark
Fennekin becoming Fire/Psychic

I just realized something. I picked those combos because they seemed to fit then I realized that the type triangle double works. Yay, unintentionality.

Sylveon looks to be flying with the mentioned Skyla style. I mean, it's Sugimori, he has his similar styles and stuff so this seems fitting. But it has to be pure flying. Tornadus can't be the only one. And Sylveon could be a speedy support pokemon like a lead. That'd be cool.

Assuming they would add another Eevolution, I would want a fighting type that stays quadripedal. It would fit for the 2 Eevolution pattern and one having a strength over the other new one added.

More HM and TM improvements. Not requiring HMs in main storyline is cool and don't have crappy TMs like Struggle Bug and quash.

A dark type gym leader for the love of god, how long will we have to wait?

Captcha: little bobby table's

Relevant xkcd captcha http://xkcd.com/327/

 

[The White Hunter]

Oh and I thought of osmething else: I DO NOT WANT ANOTHER FUCKING BABY ADDED TO A PREVIOUS CREATURE D=<

Bonsly and Mime Jr were not good ideas and neither was Budew.

Babies is generally are completely useless. Wynaut is the only good one because it brings extra move options

Even then couldn't they have just given them to Wobbuffet anyway?

Honestly isn't Encore the only move actually useful from Wynaut?...

I didn't mind in gold and silver when they were introduced though they were fun to breed for.

BUt in Gen 4 they added too many of the damn things.

Also I'd like a Jynx evo :3

 

[The White Hunter]

More HM and TM improvements. Not requiring HMs in main storyline is cool and don't have crappy TMs like Struggle Bug and quash.

I'd personally like to see HM's come back in some form so we can have some puzzles back. Particularly strength or some other kind of block puzzle. They aren't fancy or terribly taxing things but they're SOMETHING.

I also don't mind surf/rock climb being needed as the moves are usable to good in situations.

Cut needs banishing to the ether though.

 

[garjian]

Sylveon's type huh?

Based on the looks, it could be "normal" but that kind of throws poor Eevee under the bus. It could be "fighting" with a similar thought process as Mienshao. I sure hope it's not playing on some gender gimmick (with the other being a male version like Nidoking and Nidoqueen), because it looks like a Sailor Moon pet and 87% of all Eevee are male, making , Sylveon by default, painfully rare.

Just a thought...
Pokemon X/Y... What if this is a female specific Eevelution, X, and there is a male equivalent, Y?
I hope not but hey, speculation!