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Most people - including most people in this thread - are against political correctness because they either: a) misunderstand what it really is, or b) are prejudiced and don't like being called up on it.
When people hear "political correctness", they think of this straw man set of laws that say you can't even mention a person's race or sexual orientation without being called a racist/homophobe, and yet at the same time you have to give preferential treatment to any minority or female. There are very few people who actually promote that kind of PC, and yet the anti-PC crowd acts as though they're everywhere. The reality of political correctness (like the reality of feminism) is that it only asks for people to not discriminate against minorities and oppressed groups. If three people apply for a job and one of them is a Muslim woman, you don't have to give the job to the Muslim; but if the Muslim woman is clearly more qualified but you give the job to a white dude just because you dislike Islam, then you're politically incorrect.
In other words, political correctness = not being a dick.
Which brings us to the second type of anti-PC person: the stupid bigot [http://vice.typepad.com/vice_magazine/2009/07/london-babes-of-the-bnp.html]. These are the people who say things like "I'm not racist, but I hate it how I can't call someone a ****** without being called politically incorrect. They say it all the time!" It should be clear why this is a nasty kind of thing to say.
EDIT: This sort of thing is totally ok in my definition of political correctness:
When people hear "political correctness", they think of this straw man set of laws that say you can't even mention a person's race or sexual orientation without being called a racist/homophobe, and yet at the same time you have to give preferential treatment to any minority or female. There are very few people who actually promote that kind of PC, and yet the anti-PC crowd acts as though they're everywhere. The reality of political correctness (like the reality of feminism) is that it only asks for people to not discriminate against minorities and oppressed groups. If three people apply for a job and one of them is a Muslim woman, you don't have to give the job to the Muslim; but if the Muslim woman is clearly more qualified but you give the job to a white dude just because you dislike Islam, then you're politically incorrect.
In other words, political correctness = not being a dick.
Which brings us to the second type of anti-PC person: the stupid bigot [http://vice.typepad.com/vice_magazine/2009/07/london-babes-of-the-bnp.html]. These are the people who say things like "I'm not racist, but I hate it how I can't call someone a ****** without being called politically incorrect. They say it all the time!" It should be clear why this is a nasty kind of thing to say.
EDIT: This sort of thing is totally ok in my definition of political correctness:
Dahemo said:
I think it's stupid... mostly. As long as it isn't hate filled then calling someone something they clearly are shouldn't be any fault of your own, and it certainly isn't your fault that the person in question or people around them are sensitive pussies.
Depends what you mean political correctness.
I am proud of not being a racist/sexist prick, anything I say I believe isn't racist/sexist etc. unless I intend it to be for humourous purposes. That said, I don't aspire to be for political correctness sake, I do it because I think it's decent.
Politically incorrect and proud of it is this popular? by saying such you are effectively telling me you are proud of irritating people who are offended by callous behaviour. I think people get the wrong idea of what political correctness is. Calling a black person black is not political incorrectness, that's people's retardedness overwhelming the concept.
In the end this entire discussion revolves around where you draw the line between political correctness and stupidity, I choose to draw the line at my own morals, so therefore I am proud of being politically correct. As for me, being overly political correct isn't being politically correct at all.
I am proud of not being a racist/sexist prick, anything I say I believe isn't racist/sexist etc. unless I intend it to be for humourous purposes. That said, I don't aspire to be for political correctness sake, I do it because I think it's decent.
Politically incorrect and proud of it is this popular? by saying such you are effectively telling me you are proud of irritating people who are offended by callous behaviour. I think people get the wrong idea of what political correctness is. Calling a black person black is not political incorrectness, that's people's retardedness overwhelming the concept.
In the end this entire discussion revolves around where you draw the line between political correctness and stupidity, I choose to draw the line at my own morals, so therefore I am proud of being politically correct. As for me, being overly political correct isn't being politically correct at all.
Political incorrectness is great for lightening up socio-political situations because, you really shouldn't take that sort of thing seriously at all, not in this day and age. Each "race", faith, and sexual orientation is perfectly capable of on its own feet (at least in the Western World), and political incorrectness turns our cheeks when it comes to situations where that notion is not immediately obvious.
If you're actually a racist or a homophobe or an aggressive nationalist, then your problems run much deeper than something as harmless and silly as political (in)correctness.
[small]My two cents.[/small]
If you're actually a racist or a homophobe or an aggressive nationalist, then your problems run much deeper than something as harmless and silly as political (in)correctness.
[small]My two cents.[/small]
Depends how you mean politically correct, I'd say I'm politcally correct becuase I aint racist or homophobic, or I dont try to be, I still make racist jokes with my freinds at times but theres no hatred behind the jokes cept good humor.
I dont however sing blah blah rainbow sheep to my neices, its blah blah black sheep, the people who requested it to be changed were off there head. I call Black people Black people, or just people, not coloured people to be politically corrects, my aunt went out with a black guy and he said that he hates being called coloured becuase technically were all coloured.
The whole Rainbow sheep sense of political correctness does my nut in and I hate it, but that doesnt make me Bernan Manin.
I also find behing truely politcally correct can be just as racist, xenophobic and homophobic as being really politically correct, some people are so politically correct that they belittle people in the sense of "Ho your black Ive got to be kind to you now" "Ho your an immagrint I have to give you a job and a house now", that sort of thing.
Me I'm all for equality I dont think political correctness is equality in the same way I dont think unpolitical correctness isnt, becuase your not treating people as equals your either treating them better then others based on there skin or were they come from, or your treating them worse becuase of there skin or were they come from, I just dont see why we can have any middle ground.
I always liked the saying I call you black man and you call me white man, and no lets repeat it and take away the words Black and White and see what were left with.
I dont however sing blah blah rainbow sheep to my neices, its blah blah black sheep, the people who requested it to be changed were off there head. I call Black people Black people, or just people, not coloured people to be politically corrects, my aunt went out with a black guy and he said that he hates being called coloured becuase technically were all coloured.
The whole Rainbow sheep sense of political correctness does my nut in and I hate it, but that doesnt make me Bernan Manin.
I also find behing truely politcally correct can be just as racist, xenophobic and homophobic as being really politically correct, some people are so politically correct that they belittle people in the sense of "Ho your black Ive got to be kind to you now" "Ho your an immagrint I have to give you a job and a house now", that sort of thing.
Me I'm all for equality I dont think political correctness is equality in the same way I dont think unpolitical correctness isnt, becuase your not treating people as equals your either treating them better then others based on there skin or were they come from, or your treating them worse becuase of there skin or were they come from, I just dont see why we can have any middle ground.
I always liked the saying I call you black man and you call me white man, and no lets repeat it and take away the words Black and White and see what were left with.
I tell you what it is: It's the Daily Mail, trying to sell more papers.
Now, listen very, cery carefully - it's not as bad, dangerous or stupid as they would like you to believe. Currently, Political Correctness extends to the range of 'Not being an abject cock', and even then, legally, nobody can prevent that. You'll just get shunned and refused service, which is entirely acceptable in my book. Where I work, racism is prevalent, and I will admit to joining in at times, mainly because I am willing to mock everything upon this earth. However, I would not tell racist jokes in the prescence of a stranger, simply because I do not wish to offend.
Yes, at times it become irksome, but please, please do not go screaming 'Big Brother state!' like some moronic reader of the 'Mail.
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Now, listen very, cery carefully - it's not as bad, dangerous or stupid as they would like you to believe. Currently, Political Correctness extends to the range of 'Not being an abject cock', and even then, legally, nobody can prevent that. You'll just get shunned and refused service, which is entirely acceptable in my book. Where I work, racism is prevalent, and I will admit to joining in at times, mainly because I am willing to mock everything upon this earth. However, I would not tell racist jokes in the prescence of a stranger, simply because I do not wish to offend.
Yes, at times it become irksome, but please, please do not go screaming 'Big Brother state!' like some moronic reader of the 'Mail.
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Death or Glory, Sturm und Drang
Fondant