PercyBoleyn said:
spartan231490 said:
Horrible reasoning. People commit murder too, that doesn't mean we should legalize it.
You can't exactly compare murder to drug use.
spartan231490 said:
Maybe you can make them safer, but you can't make them safe, they will always be too dangerous to have any legitimate use.
So we can make them safer but we shouldn't because we can't make them completely safe? That makes no sense. I think you're underestimating just how safe we COULD make them. Legalizing hard drugs would create a demand to make them safer. You'd have actual scientists working to make drugs like heroin and cocaine less addictive and more safe for the user. Wouldn't that be a good thing?
spartan231490 said:
Also, cutting doesn't make a drug more dangerous, unless you cut it with something like rat poison.
It's an inherently dangerous process that we can do away with if we legalize hard drugs. We can make hard drugs safer, why shouldn't we?
spartan231490 said:
Lastly, these drugs are horrifically addictive. They make alcohol and nicotine and just about everything else look about as addictive as sugar.
Nicotine addiction is on par with heroin addiction and yet cigarettes are still legal.
spartan231490 said:
They make people into junkies, and that isn't good for anyone, and makes it far too easy for whoever controls the supply to control users.
That's the point.
Legalizing hard drugs would make them safer. No more cutting process, more information about what the drug actually contains, societal exposure for junkies and, in the long run, lower rates of hard drug use.
I'm not comparing drug use to murder, I'm pointing out that the reasoning you used is flawed, just because people do something doesn't mean that it should be legal.
Most hard drugs were designed by "real scientists". Legalizing might create a demand to make them safer, but that doesn't mean they could be made safer. What you don't seem to get is that these drugs are chemicals. You can't just add a little something to them in order to get the result you want. The impact of a previously unknown chemical on the human body is impossible, or nearly impossible, to predict. Heroine is a great example, as I'll talk about a little later To make a safer drug you make a new drug, you don't just add some flour to cocaine. These aren't mixtures, they're chemicals, modifying them changes them completely.
Cutting is not an inherently dangerous process, I don't know where you're getting that. All cutting is, is diluting. It's analogous to adding water to vodka, there's nothing inherently dangerous about it. In fact, higher purity substances are usually more dangerous for a number of reasons, the danger comes from drug dealers trying to cut costs by cutting their drugs with whatever they happen to have around, which is often poisonous.
Nicotine addiction is not on par with heroine addiction. Not even close. Dependence might be, I wouldn't know, but I'm talking about addiction. You don't see any people living on the street because they can't afford a place to live cuz they spent all their money on cigarettes. You don't see people quitting their jobs because they want to spend more time smoking. You do see these things, these things and much worse, as a result of heroine addiction. There's a reason smokers are called smokers, not junkies.
No, that's not the point. There is no good reason to use these drugs, and they can't be made safe. Chemistry doesn't work like that. What you are asking for, is not the legalization of hard drugs, but the creation of something that provides the high of hard drugs, without the dangers, and there's a reason that hasn't already been done. It's almost impossible to create such a substance.
This is where I'm going to go back to heroine, scientists created heroine trying to create a painkiller that worked like morphine but was less addictive and less dangerous. Heroine ended up being more addictive and more dangerous than morphine. If someone could create a drug that offered a high on par with hard drugs and no down-sides, they already would have done it because the potential profit is huge.
Again, legalizing cocaine isn't going to result in the production of some Safe cocaine, that is cocaine but has no down-sides. That's not possible, cocaine is a single chemical and it produces all of it's effects, the "good" and the bad. Same with heroine.
Lastly, if hard drugs were legalized there would be
absolutely no incentive to make them safer, just look at cigarettes. The only incentive would be to make them even more addictive than it already is, not safer, and that would just make the junkies even worse.
