Poll: Poor Sportsmanship in Online Gaming. How much of a problem is it?

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Free Thinker

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Xbox Live is disgusting, but we shouldn't expect decency from the community at large. League of Legends and Starcraft should have good sportsmanship due to the nature of the game and potential for eSports. But like I said, can't expect decency from the community at large.
 

Drakulea

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The Abhorrent said:
Just something I've been noticing whenever I participate in online multiplayer games, especially those with competitive angle to them. Many, if not most, of the player lack sportsmanship. Sure, you're bound to have a few bad apples (vocal ones too) no matter where you go... but the prevalence of players who don't treat their opponents nor their teammates with any amount of respect is worrying. I understand full well that the internet isn't a place where people are generally nice, but I'm just thinking that online gaming could greatly benefit from people at least trying to be more sportsman-like; the games could be a lot more fun if people just made that little bit of effort needed.

This isn't to say players should cease to be competitive; you can look at many examples in professional sports where the players are doing everything they can to win, but as soon as the game's over they shake the hands of the players on the opposing team. Everyone plays to win, but they do so fairly (no cheating nor using otherwise cheap tactics/strategies) and don't sweat it if they lost. In essence, they follow the phrase "May the best man win" (no offense to the ladies, the principle should be treated as gender-neutral anyhow). In some sports players don't just frown upon unsportsmans-like conduct, but actively punish it; if you do something bad to a player on the other team, the rest of that team (if not your own as well) will do worse to you. Sports fan(atic)s get pretty viscious and unruly, but the players (generally) conduct themselves in a decent manner.

How much better would online gaming be if the players stopping acting like the unruly fans and more like the professional players?
Well, games aren't a sport, that's part of the answer.

Two, you never look your opponent in the eye, you look at a computer monitor of a digital representation of the others avatar.

So there's no way to solve this I'm afraid, not to the level recognized sports are.

Games are meant to be entertaining and accessible , thus they can't be too taxing on the reflexes or the brain.

Let me elaborate.

A video game player that is really good, say, at micro-ing, is still a talentless sack of potatoes in real-life. He's as good as the machine and program allows him to be.

You can be the best headshotter on the planet, you are king of a universe that dies when the machine is turned off. Really, excellence in games means little as long as games allow idiotic stuff like "360 , no scope".

Difficulty through realism and games don't get along, not today anyway.

Moreover, it's never eye-to-eye. It's all through a screen, at best you can hear the other through a headset, that's it. And all the social implications that would come with looking the other in the eye when you talk about his mother are gone. Because rest, assured, the kind of language that passes for "acceptable" over the "tubes", in real life, you would get your face smashed into a wall, 11 year old or not.

It's unfortunate, but there's no way out, not when "competitive" gaming means bunny-hopping around the map like an idiot. I'd like to see half of those loud and proud FPS-Dougs do their in-game routines in real-life with a US Army veteran watching.

Games means escapism, multiplayer games mean,unfortunately, escapism from social norms. And the fact that the mechanics of a mainstream WW2 game are laughable doesn't help. Very little, to no games are "mature" enough in the sense of mechanics, of consequences.

That's the bottom line : games are in their adolescence, and it shows.
 

MurderousToaster

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I like to use SC2 as an example of sportsmanship in gaming.

If you don't throw out a glhf at the start of a game or a gg at the end, you come off like a dick because people expect you to do those things.

Being rude to other players is fine if you're about 12 years old. Sadly, outside of the strategy genre, I think that the days of sportsmanship in online gaming are gone due to the abundance of little dickheads that think they're about 20 times funnier than they actually are.

It's been a very, very long time since I heard someone congratulate another team on a victory on Halo outside of the professional side of players (although it did happen a little bit back in the earlier days of the 360, prior to the price going down a bit) and I have never seen someone congratulate the other team on a good win in CoD in any of its iterations on a console, although it's not uncommon to see a GG on CoD 4 on the PC.

In general, sportsmanship is considerably better on the PC. It's not about liking your opponent, it's just about being enough of a person to be able to shake their hand and say GG at the end of a game.

People who argue that they're trying to relax and that, as such, sportsmanship makes it more difficult to enjoy the game are being ridiculous - being a good sport while playing a game makes the atmosphere considerably more amiable and less frustrating than it would otherwise be if you told someone to shut the fuck up at the start of a match or insulted their mother's sexual tendencies.

On the consoles, bad sportsmanship is frequent. You say "Hey, good luck" to the opposite team, and you will have about four angry pre-teens shouting down the microphone about how much of a raging homosexual you are.
 

Jakub324

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I can deal with it in normal online play, such as CoD deathmatches, but when people quit when you score a single goal on FIFA, or because they lost a perk or someone stole kill on Nazi zombies, that annoys me a lot.
 

Jakub324

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I can deal with it in normal online play, such as CoD deathmatches, but when people quit when you score a single goal on FIFA, or because they lost a perk or someone stole kill on Nazi zombies, that annoys me a lot.
 

ZtH

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I don't think it's too big of an issue. I mean yea it gets on my nerves and all, but it doesn't really detract from my experience too much. Besides beating the people who are being asshats is incredibly satisfying.
 

Savagezion

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It's bad, but not to the extent that it's a major issue.

I don't run across this behavior often at all. I mean I could actually count how many times I have met someone who was an asshole in a multiplayer setting on one hand if I rule out MMOs. MMOs are a whole other story. But online shooters and such, if you run into people that ruin your experience that often I think the problem lies with you and not them. Yeah, some people are assholes but it is extremely rare.
It is also bad sportsmanship if you get all pissy over a little competitive trash talk. I have seen whiners do this myself.

Playaboy12: "I am gonna take you down for that, Gundam"
Gundam 42: "..."
Playaboy12 killed Gundam42
Playaboy12: "Yeah, you like that?"
Playaboy12 killed Gundam42
Playaboy12: "I did it again, son."
Playaboy12: "Gundam, turn around."
Playaboy12 killed Gundam42
Playaboy12: "Hehe, you make it too easy Gundam"
Playaboy12: "Where did you go Gundam? Oh, your hiding now huh?"
Playaboy12 killed Gundam42
Playaboy12: "Haha, you ain't got skills Gundam"

From here Gundam either starts raging on his mic or rage quits. But all of that that playaboy is saying isn't being an asshole. It is a strategy called "getting in someone's head". You are actually witnessing Playaboy fluster Gundam and possibly making him play even more predictable than he normally does. I get the feeling a lot of people take this as being an asshole. If this stuff riles you, next time you run across it, mute their mic and see if it steps up your game against them.

Getting pissy and stomping your feet is actually bad sportsmanship as well. I think people that get pissy over a little trash talk are bad sports. You can mute them, or you can grow thick skin. The one thing I think is the epitome of bad sports is people that try to tell you how to play the game you purchased and rage over it. You got entirely WAY too much invested in 1 match of an online game if you do that.
 

Midnight Crossroads

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It's underwhelming, but it's not the cesspool people on the Internet make it out to be. I see more insults on PC, but I guess that's because all you have to do is type. However, I also see more glhf's and gg's. Xbox Live is usually not bad. PSN is dead. Mostly, I just get silence no matter what happens. It's like the players don't think of themselves as playing against people, but just Bots with good AI.
 

Blank Verse

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I used to play WoW arenas competitively in S2. In 2v2, 3v3, and 5v5 my teams held rank 1 for a week.

Competition certainly divides people into categories, whether it be team names, roles, what-have-you, but I had memorable experiences in the upper-tier communities dedicated to PvP. A lot of competitors would discuss tactics, class strengths and weaknesses, etc. It would be done with an informal but friendly attitude, and I had good relationships with my peers.
 

Lazy Kitty

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There are no cheap tactics in life, there is only 2 things one should care for:

1. What you are capable of doing.
2. What gives you the greatest advantage.

Of course, in games, don't cheat, that would defeat the purpose of playing, unless you're a griefer/troll.
 

btenkink

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In the case of upper lvl WoW PvP the community has been filtered to only contain the most dedicated players. What does one do for PvP communities which are more mixed regarding age/maturity?
 

FolkLikePanda

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Meh, I'll admit I'm a bad sport at times (if I keep getting killed in bullshit ways I'll leave) but I also leave if people are being douchebags like tea-bagging or if I accidently steal their kill and they start messaging to which I just reply an appropriate smiley face, nevertheless though as long as its a fair game I don't mind.
 

Aeonknight

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The reason for so much bullshit online is that no one likes losing. I could totally destroy on some rounds of black ops, then get the complete reversal and have a terrible K/D ratio the next. You so much as express joy at the fact that you won, and someone's gonna start crying or talking shit or rage quit.
When you're on the recieving end of an ass kicking, the opposite team has no problem gloating about it in a condescending way, thus inviting someone to step up and start shit.

It's definately more prevalent on Live than it is PSN, which is why I've started migrating more games that I intend to play online on PSN.
 

Vault boy Eddie

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How bad is it? I preordered Left 4 Dead 2, and since it came out, i've only played it a handful of times. People rage quitting has made that game unplayable unless you go in with friends.

I hate playing Blops with my friend. If he's doing good he's all smiles, as soon as his k/d goes bad, he starts bitching, that is, if he doesn't rage quit altogether. This is especially true if i'm doing better than him, seeing as how I don't have Blops on PS3 and only play it when i'm at his house.
 

FalloutJack

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Actually, it's not a question of professionalism, per se, but simple fun. Play like you don't REALLY care if you win or lose. Winning and losing shouldn't give more than the equivalent "Woohoo!" and "D'oh!". When it gets beyond either of those, problems arise. And instead of trash-talking, let's have clever anecdotes, give people a laugh while the game is on. Nobody wants "FUCK!" every three seconds.
 

The Abhorrent

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FalloutJack said:
Actually, it's not a question of professionalism, per se, but simple fun. Play like you don't REALLY care if you win or lose. Winning and losing shouldn't give more than the equivalent "Woohoo!" and "D'oh!". When it gets beyond either of those, problems arise. And instead of trash-talking, let's have clever anecdotes, give people a laugh while the game is on. Nobody wants "FUCK!" every three seconds.
I whole-heartedly agree with the principle, and I think you might be onto something. Good sportsmanship, at least in regards to gaming (and amateur sports as well), is about letting everyone have a good time. It just so happens that being sportsman-like brings some professionalism into the attitudes of the players; things like finishing the match even when you're losing (if you're going down, may as well make them earn it), not being a sore loser (or conversely, not gloating when you win), and trying to have fun instead of just to trying to win (and using any means necessary to do so).
 

Psycho78

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It all depends on the server operators. If there are doofuses on the server and no ops, then move on to another server.