Poll: Pop Punk or New Punk?

[Gxas]

Pop Punk is of course the mutant offspring of Punk and Pop, made to appeal to "hardcore/punk" Middle Schooler.

I guess I'm just a hardcore middle schooler then.

Chunk! No, Captain Chunk!, Veara, A Day To Remember, Four Year Strong, New Found Glory.

I don't know, man, all of this shit is much better than anything I've ever heard. I don't think its fair for you to say its for middle schoolers.

Music is a taste, don't insult people for liking what you don't.

Calm down.

There's quotation marks there for a reason.
I didn't say anything about you, especailly nothing bad.
But you can't deny certain music is geared for certain age groups.

Nice list too. Not neccesarily my top 6, but still good.

See, I disagree that that type of music is geared toward the ages you think they are. ever listen to The Wonder Years (The greatest pop/punk band ever. *opinionated fact*)? Definitely not pandering to a younger audience.

(In retrospect, I should have put TWY in my list instead of ADTR. I actually really dislike ADTR)

 

[plugav]

Neither of those sound like punk to me, so I guess "classic" is my answer.

I'm not really a big fun of punk, either way, because:

Post-punk is where it's at.

 

[triggrhappy94]

Pop Punk is of course the mutant offspring of Punk and Pop, made to appeal to "hardcore/punk" Middle Schooler.

I guess I'm just a hardcore middle schooler then.

Chunk! No, Captain Chunk!, Veara, A Day To Remember, Four Year Strong, New Found Glory.

I don't know, man, all of this shit is much better than anything I've ever heard. I don't think its fair for you to say its for middle schoolers.

Music is a taste, don't insult people for liking what you don't.

Calm down.

There's quotation marks there for a reason.
I didn't say anything about you, especailly nothing bad.
But you can't deny certain music is geared for certain age groups.

Nice list too. Not neccesarily my top 6, but still good.

See, I disagree that that type of music is geared toward the ages you think they are. ever listen to The Wonder Years (The greatest pop/punk band ever. *opinionated fact*)? Definitely not pandering to a younger audience.

(In retrospect, I should have put TWY in my list instead of ADTR. I actually really dislike ADTR)

Well, look at people like Justin Bieber and NSYNC. They have been designed to apeal to young girls. Think about it, what do little girls like? Cute things. What do they find cute? Puppies. Justin Bieber is groomed to resemble a puppy, so little girls will want him.

I do agree with you that anyone can listen to anything, I'm not trying to be music Nazi. But there are bands that are aimed at certain people.

 

[Squallie Greenthumb]

the problem with most of the punk you guys are talking about is that it's ALL pop punk. Punk isn't radio music. At least not in it's purest form. If you look at bands like Bad Religion, Rancid, and Green Day their first few albums were legitimate punk. Then one of their records got popular so the rest of their efforts had to get poppier and poppier. Ska for the most part is dead and mainly the bands that are still sticking around are by default the more popular ones (aka ones that ended up in Tony Hawk). Which is a damn shamebecause I love ska dearly.

For the real punk that maintains the energy of the originals without bending one way or another to get itself on a major label you have to look at local scenes. The main hubs for them are Boston, New York, and California but pretty much anywhere you go there's at least one group of 5 kids who are pissed off enough to pull it off. Here are some decent examples of current punk bands that are still recording and touring with their own hard earned cash:

The Pity Whores from Foxboro, MA (if you like them check out bands like The Queers and Tit Patrol)

http://youtu.be/dgkNoRpGWJ0
http://youtu.be/r1OqUk-mqN0

Brunt of It from Boston, MA/ Providence, RI (one of the last standing ska bands)

http://youtu.be/NyelRQFwq64

Generation Decline from Bremerton, Washington

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlXfAO4EHZs

Ashtray from California

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QZ7nAdjze4

World War 9 from NY/ NJ (note the lack of blowouts)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgxF5lrycKw


These are a miniscule amount compared to how much awesome music is out there that you guys might never hear unless you hunt it down. It's a shame but that's how it goes. But if you like any of these bands go support them. Some of them are on itunes but for those that aren't they have bandcamps, facebook pages, and if neither of those their myspace is still up (cuz that's all that's left there are bands) so if you want their music write them a message. You don't have to limit yourself to what's easily accessible.

Though honestly I still love pretty much all pop punk bands too with the exception of shit like Simple Plan or Good Charlotte. Sum 41 won me over a little bit but that's more of a guilty pleasure I guess.

Preachy lecture over.

 

[Acier]

Pop punk can be pretty good.
This is particular
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7RUeMCZL3Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4FFY8WqM70
Second has stronger garage influences

I just want to pause for a moments and mention that I don't think I saw anyone mention the Misfits. Which is a damn shame. (I don't think I saw Black Flag either, but I kinda doubt that since they're so popular). And Subhumans, they are great.

Also, Folk Punk is awesome because Andrew Jack Jihad is classified as that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDH_4lalRtQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xlwhku6Ss8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VTUaarHjuY

YOU'RE WELCOME.

Garage music is also awesome, it predates punk but it's basically proto-punk, the roots punk has in it is *very* obvious. If you have a chance check out the Back From the Grave compilations.

I'm going through a surf phase so naturally I've been listening to a lot of surf punk as well. Which is delicious.

I just over answered your question. It's a bit more complex than "old, new, or pop"

 

[reignsupreme]

Hardcore punk is where its at man.
the older bands such as Minor Threat, Black flag and Circle jerks are amazing or the newer bands such as Bane or Reign Supreme or Have heart to name a few.

 

[zehydra]

My kind of punk:

 

[octafish]

Proto-punk for me, The MC5, The Stooges, The Sonics, The Monks, The Velvet Underground, New York Dolls, and The Modern Lovers, throw in some genuine punk like Patti Smith, Television, Richard Hell and the Voidoids, and a bit of Hawkwind and Roxy Music for good measure.

 

[AgentNein]

Not voting for any of those, as I doubt any prefix is truly applicable. Punk was a reaction to the vapidity of pop, so pop punk is as oxymoronic as it gets

Not really. In fact punk, early punk is tremendously poppy. If anything it was a reaction to bloated self important "god musicians" spending months in the studio that was all the rage in the seventies.

Punk was simpler. It hit the do-over button, it was rock and roll as it originally was, just faster and grittier and more obnoxious. But it was still pop. Catchy infectious lightweight tunes. Just look at the Ramones, Buzzcocks, Blondie, etc... and there's nothing wrong with that.

Really "pop punk" is as old as punk.

To contribute to the thread, here are some truly awesome modern pop punk bands doing their thang that everyone should check out, you might dig it:

The Briefs!


The Cute Lepers (AKA The Briefs Part 2!)


The Exploding Hearts (RIP Exploding Hearts!)

 

[ZephrC]

I really, really want to like classic punk, but I'm afraid that I just don't think it sounds very good.

All of it?

Well, obviously I haven't listened to all of it, but definitely the huge majority that I've have heard.

 

[Lionsfan]

.....obviously I'm pretty outdated on Punk Music. I knew it had mostly turned into Warped Tour stuff but I'm not recognizing any of the guys people are throwing out there.

As for the bands you listed OP, those sound the exact same to me. So it's Classic Punk all the way for me