Poll: Portal Phrase Turned into Atheist Metaphor

[Kinguendo]

I see no one knows of the quote... I guess I should have provided a link and the time and date it was said/written.

Or just, maybe, put it in quotations marks. You know, where quotes dgo. We don't need the time and date, I'm afraid.

It wasnt an exact quote... I am not going to mis-quote someone. It certainly didnt start with "After all,".

 

[Necrofudge]

Listen, I know what you mean and I am being a Nazi by doing this, but you said: "the bible doesn't exist" as a theory. You probably meant "The stuff described by the bible doesn't exist" or some variation of that. But overall, great thinkings there.

Damn ninja'd on that thing.

 

[Zeroththeking]

I mean what was in the bible was a lie. If its a metaphor, why can't people understand that everything or nothing or maybe just one thing can be the intangible or abstract part of it? Am I the only one trying to think here without getting all defensive about their religion? Im not saying what is what, im saying, for the fourth time now, that this is a thought process created from a video game phrase that I thought of while completely bored. But it does make sense in some parts.

 

[0p3rati0n]

But in Portal, the cake wasn't a lie. You see the cake at the end of the game. So comparing the cake to the Bible suggests that the Bible is not a lie.

that is so true. Plus I highly doubt that Valve are some jerks (no reference to HL2EP3) that will create a slogan under the fact that it's a reference to the bible. The whole company would need to be atheists then!

 

[cuddly_tomato]

Stop, just stop. Its quite clear you dont know what I am quoting so lets just leave it there.

And no, the definition of Atheism isnt "denying the existance of God/Gods and saying religion is false."

Its "The absence of belief in the existence of deities"... Dont give the man credence by agreeing with his "denial" bull.

1. the doctrine or belief that there is no God.
2. disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/atheism

"Disbelief in the existence of god", or "belief that there is no god".

You are wrong, please admit it or cease to post anymore in this thread, you are only making yourself look a little... immature... for not actually acknowledging what is blatantly true.

 

[TheHitcher]

Since we are using the english language, and since it becomes a metaphor, you can change up the words simply and have the phrase be of actual meaning to atheists (people who dont believe in god).

The Bible, (or any religious book for that matter), have been motivators throughout the millennia, making people establish religions and forcing people to turn into their religion and bash any other religion other then their own. Lets switch Bible with Cake

The Bible is a lie.

Now this can be a simple phrase to utter, but cannot be an actual truth until we find some actual way to prove that the bible doesn't exist, (other then all the other obvious ones that got religious people completely ignorant). But can there be such a metaphor or such a comparison created for two completely different things? Possibly.

But if you are religious and are shaking your head in disapproval right now, but are a really big Portal fan, (This is to the what, 6 people out in the world?), think of it this way, if we use the same phrase.

Atheism is a lie.

Are you sure? Atheism was not as much motivating as any of the other religions were, since Atheists were not begging to burn witches, or create churches in their religious honor, (at least around the 1800s, I haven't seen an atheist church but tell me if they actually exist), so due to the phrase, you can think that Atheism has a less chance of being Cake aka a lie, then Christianity does. But also once Atheism is proven to be fictitious, then Atheism becomes cake.

Therefore the percentage of Atheism being a lie (just by using this phrase and no other form of hypothesis) is lower then the chance of Christianity or any other religion being a lie, since those religions already are filling the cake up and putting it in the oven. When it is proven ficticious, then there is the icing on the cake, (no pun intended). Either way, there is your weird metaphor that I just thought up. I have no idea if this is logical or not, but its a thought to toil around in the back of your brain. Its been 5 hours and I still don't know.

Very interesting theory. Quite philosophical too, and a lot better than most Portal posts I see floating around.

 

[Kinguendo]

Stop, just stop. Its quite clear you dont know what I am quoting so lets just leave it there.

And no, the definition of Atheism isnt "denying the existance of God/Gods and saying religion is false."

Its "The absence of belief in the existence of deities"... Dont give the man credence by agreeing with his "denial" bull.

Okay, I don't know where you got you're quote from, but that doesn't change the fact that it's quite strange and wrong.

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/40634/atheism

Laaaawl. I think I see the word "denial" there.

EDIT: Oh look, another one! http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheism
Shall I continue?

Oh, whats this? The Oxford Dictionary: http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/atheism?view=uk

"Denial", I dont see it.

 

[Kinguendo]

Stop, just stop. Its quite clear you dont know what I am quoting so lets just leave it there.

And no, the definition of Atheism isnt "denying the existance of God/Gods and saying religion is false."

Its "The absence of belief in the existence of deities"... Dont give the man credence by agreeing with his "denial" bull.

1. the doctrine or belief that there is no God.
2. disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/atheism

"Disbelief in the existence of god", or "belief that there is no god".

You are wrong, please admit it or cease to post anymore in this thread, you are only making yourself look a little... immature... for not actually acknowledging what is blatantly true.

What exactly do you think "disbelief" is? Because if you think that somehow proves me wrong then you need to hit the books kid.

 

[cuddly_tomato]

Stop, just stop. Its quite clear you dont know what I am quoting so lets just leave it there.

And no, the definition of Atheism isnt "denying the existance of God/Gods and saying religion is false."

Its "The absence of belief in the existence of deities"... Dont give the man credence by agreeing with his "denial" bull.

Okay, I don't know where you got you're quote from, but that doesn't change the fact that it's quite strange and wrong.

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/40634/atheism

Laaaawl. I think I see the word "denial" there.

EDIT: Oh look, another one! http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheism
Shall I continue?

Oh, whats this? The Oxford Dictionary: http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/atheism?view=uk

"Denial", I dont see it.

Oh for the love of...

? noun - the belief that God does not exist.

You have proven yourself wrong. You are going to such lengths to avoid admitting this, demanding that we find the word "denial" somewhere, even though you know exactly what the definition is. If you don't know by know then you really are clueless.

 

[Treefingers]

...But if you are religious and are shaking your head in disapproval right now, but are a really big Portal fan, (This is to the what, 6 people out in the world?)...

You think only atheists can like Portal? That's just silly.

You're silly.

 

[cuddly_tomato]

Oh, whats this? The Oxford Dictionary: http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/atheism?view=uk

"Denial", I dont see it.

...Are you seriously trying to suggest there is a difference between believing something doesn't exist and denying something's existance?

Having looked at the last few posts it is either the kind of person who wouldn't admit they were wrong, even at gunpoint, or it is a troll fucking with us.

 

[MercurySteam]

The cake wasn't a lie GLaDOS was just being GlaDOS. Seriously if this is how you take a falsified statement then I can't image what would happen if you tried to connect the events from a game to real life..........

 

[Kinguendo]

Oh, whats this? The Oxford Dictionary: http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/atheism?view=uk

"Denial", I dont see it.

...Are you seriously trying to suggest there is a difference between believing something doesn't exist and denying something's existance?

Well as disbelief is the rejection of belief and denial is a statement in opposition of another.

 

[Kinguendo]

Stop, just stop. Its quite clear you dont know what I am quoting so lets just leave it there.

And no, the definition of Atheism isnt "denying the existance of God/Gods and saying religion is false."

Its "The absence of belief in the existence of deities"... Dont give the man credence by agreeing with his "denial" bull.

Okay, I don't know where you got you're quote from, but that doesn't change the fact that it's quite strange and wrong.

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/40634/atheism

Laaaawl. I think I see the word "denial" there.

EDIT: Oh look, another one! http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheism
Shall I continue?

Oh, whats this? The Oxford Dictionary: http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/atheism?view=uk

"Denial", I dont see it.

Oh for the love of...

? noun - the belief that God does not exist.

You have proven yourself wrong. You are going to such lengths to avoid admitting this, demanding that we find the word "denial" somewhere, even though you know exactly what the definition is. If you don't know by know then you really are clueless.

Couldnt continue with your own, huh? Well by all means jump on this one.

I didnt demand any such thing, please dont put your word in my mouth.

Also, to continue this read my previous post.

 

[Spygon]

i think i see what your saying that anything can be claimed to be a lie without evidence and thats the whole problem with the religion vs atheists debate it will never be proven unless someone can prove there is or isnt a god.

So you are saying people will carry on with there life and decide what to believe until the end of time.

So its kinda logical but your explaination is a bit warped.