Poll: PS3 vs 360 security

[GrimHeaper]

"Same with the 360. If hackers wanted to hack it, they could. Apparently, they are hacking PSN ONLY because Sony sued GeoHotz. If Microsoft sued Geohotz, then Xbox Live would be hacked. Also, don't forget that Xbox Live also went down for 11 days a few years ago. Well, the chances of me being a part of the 1 million out of 77 million people on PSN isn't so hot. And my PSN is perfectly fine."
"Geohotz HACKED the Ps3, so Sony sued him, which lead to Ps3 being hacked. If he hacked the 360, and got sued by Microsoft because of it, then Xbox live would shut down. YOUR point is invalid.
More than a million? IIRC it was only a million, and no 1/77 isn't so DAMN HIGH in my opinion. The good thing is, my account is perfectly fine."

This is a friend of mines argument.
I however keep telling him that Microsoft would respond much better to this and is much less vulnerable compared to PSN in security.
So I want reasons why one security is better than the other and worse.

 

[Danceofmasks]

Hotz hacked the iPhone. Now it's legal to jailbreak your iPhone.
Think about why that would be, and why in this case some nerds are angry.

 

[Googenstien]

They all have hackable security.. nothing is safe

 

[YawningAngel]

How the hell should we know? Unless you a) built the system in question or b) have spent bloody ages studying it, you aren't in a position to comment on how secure it is. Even if you are, you have to have done this for both systems to be able to compare them. Nobody in this community can offer you a meaningful opinion.

 

[GrimHeaper]

They all have hackable security.. nothing is safe

It's true, but think about effort for a second.
It took a single injection to hack a major database of sony and none of the info was encrypted.
I have heard stories and claims about Microsoft being uncrackable and even inviting people to try and having them fail each time along with many failsafes and the fact that the entire network doesn't go down.... I would prefer 360's security.

 

[Katana314]

What the heck are you talking about with none of the info being encrypted? Sony SPECIFICALLY said most of their data was encrypted, and that they "couldn't be sure" if the hackers were able to break that encryption.

One thing to keep in mind is that the reason a certain system hasn't been hacked for years and years is often because it isn't worth the effort. Big hacking groups don't hack things on a whim, or because they can, and especially not just because the company invited them to try; if they did, they would attract far too much attention.

 

[GrimHeaper]

What the heck are you talking about with none of the info being encrypted? Sony SPECIFICALLY said most of their data was encrypted, and that they "couldn't be sure" if the hackers were able to break that encryption.

One thing to keep in mind is that the reason a certain system hasn't been hacked for years and years is often because it isn't worth the effort. Big hacking groups don't hack things on a whim, or because they can, and especially not just because the company invited them to try; if they did, they would attract far too much attention.

Sony lied about ALOT of things I wouldn't trust them at all.
This thread here
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.288748-Sony-Website-Hacked-By-the-Lulz-Boat?page=1
Assuming they have valid claims that was awfully easy.
I have never heard of a big crash like that in mircosoft.
http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2011/03/is-microsoft-ho-hum-about-hacker.html
http://www.dnewsglobal.com/google-challenges-hackers-hack-google-chrome/2349.html
http://labnol.blogspot.com/2005/06/microsoft-challenge-hack-me-if-you-can.html
and oh so many more I'm no liarbird sir.
They do that on purpose to improve their defenses and I never made a claim of a big hacker group. You are right about the effort.

 

[veloper]

The wii, but not because it's good.

Functionality is insecurity.

 

[Pearwood]

I'd still say PS3, I highly doubt Sony were any less competant than Microsoft or Nintendo would be in the same situation so there's no real difference between them, the main difference is PS3 using Blu-ray discs which makes piracy harder.

 

[Katana314]

What the heck are you talking about with none of the info being encrypted? Sony SPECIFICALLY said most of their data was encrypted, and that they "couldn't be sure" if the hackers were able to break that encryption.

One thing to keep in mind is that the reason a certain system hasn't been hacked for years and years is often because it isn't worth the effort. Big hacking groups don't hack things on a whim, or because they can, and especially not just because the company invited them to try; if they did, they would attract far too much attention.

Sony lied about ALOT of things I wouldn't trust them at all.
This thread here
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.288748-Sony-Website-Hacked-By-the-Lulz-Boat?page=1
Assuming they have valid claims that was awfully easy.
I have never heard of a big crash like that in mircosoft.
http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2011/03/is-microsoft-ho-hum-about-hacker.html
http://www.dnewsglobal.com/google-challenges-hackers-hack-google-chrome/2349.html
http://labnol.blogspot.com/2005/06/microsoft-challenge-hack-me-if-you-can.html
and oh so many more I'm no liarbird sir.
They do that on purpose to improve their defenses and I never made a claim of a big hacker group. You are right about the effort.

I wouldn't easily take the word of Sony or a hacker. Let's keep in mind something to the tune of a million accounts were already stolen, and no one found out where they had been posted. I'm surprised to see that they had plaintext passwords, but that's only if there's some way of determining if they're being truthful. I don't take any sites like that at face value. If anonymous groups of criminals are your news-source, you're not doing very good reporting.

All I'm saying is that the original quote in the first post has some merit; there are many very small, very stupid security-wise companies that HAVEN'T been hacked simply because no experienced hackers care about them. It could easily be the case that the only reason microsoft.com isn't something like "Hacked by xXx" is because no large groups have banded together and said "Microsoft needs to go down because they did 'Z'!"

 

[michiehoward]

I still trust 360 over this rest....Though if you visit the "I got a perma ban" thread on the 360 forums you think that people get their password stolen or hacked every minute of everyday -face meet palm-

 

[CGAdam]

Does PSN have anything like XBLA's month-by-month or scratch-off card subscription option? The scratchers, at least, seem like they might reduce the number of credit cards on file.

 

[Megawat22]

I remember hearing about a small group of "hackers" getting almost full access to the Pentagon using nothing but a web browser, some phone calls and a bit of trickery.
If a group felt like it I'm certain that they could take down the entire XBox online service just as easily as the PS3s.

 

[bit_crusherrr]

This is such a redundant thread. Nothing is hack proof and to be honest we don't know anything about either companies security. However I wager PS3 will be voted to be least secure because of recent events and 360 most secure because of Xbox Live is perceived a better service because you're forced to pay for it.

 

[Damura]

How is PS3 getting any votes at all?

 

[The_Yeti]

360, Because, if you tried to piss off Microsoft... Bill Nye the science gu- I mean, Bill Gates would enslave said person and spoon feed them their first born.

 

[Shio]

The wii, but not because it's good.

Functionality is insecurity.

Lol. True in a sad way.

 

[eels05]

If Microsoft were smart they would be reveiwing their online security now.
What with the bi-polar reasoning of these 'hackers',you never know what they'll take offence to.

 

[MercurySteam]

The wii, but not because it's good.

Functionality is insecurity.

Hacking a Wii is like putting out viruses that target Macs. There's not fucking point in bothering (despite the fact that each has sold a shitload of units).