I laughed pretty hard at that.logiman said:It would make life more interesig..maybe less murders and rapes..that`s good, right?
Or..you could sell tickets end end the economic crisis ^^
BTW, this is how problems should be solved:
Yeah, the eye for an eye might work...bluepilot said:The committers of these terrible crimes, even if brutally executed in public, would be given more of a chance than they gave their victims. They deserve the worst. I personally think that murderers and rapist deserve horrible brutal punishments. In the baby P case, I personally thought that every one of them should have had EXACTLY the same injuries delievered to them that they inflicted on baby P...This is why I am not a laywer or a judge.
However, if society kills them in public, are we to call ourselves any better?
Thus lies the dilemma. It is the Batman-Joker dilemma, the Batman wants to kill the Joker, ans society would benefit from the Joker`s death, but doing so would lower him down to the Joker`s level.
However, society has gone from pulic execution to the other extreme. Criminals have too many rights and protection. We want to build a humane society, which means treating all humanly, regardless of circumstances.
This is why we now have rapists and murderers from the ages of 9 and younger.
So, to be honest, I would want public execution brought back, because I want so see criminals punished as they deserve and victims protected as they deserve, on the other hand, I do not want public execition brought back because it is a symbol of a barbaric society.
I don't care if they raped seven children while slitting the throats of twenty nuns. A death sentence and "eye for an eye" approach are barbaric remnants of our past; can't we get past that chapter of human history?Scaredpanther0101 said:You have to admit Death row convicts fighting to the death in public would be damn fun to watch even more so if they were child molesters
It's not a deterrent. Research has clearly demonstrated that the death penalty, public or not, does not significantly change the crime rate.TheGreatCoolEnergy said:Our ancestors used to exicute people publicaly for crime. It served as a warning as well as the ultimate detterent.
Well, maybe it's just me, then. I've just been noticing a lot of religion-, politics-, and sex-related threads lately. But I haven't been posting for too long, so maybe it's always like this.Internet Kraken said:I haven't noticed anymore than usual.bobknowsall said:Oh hooray, another flame-bait topic. Is it just me, or are these on the rise lately?
I wouldn't hurt a fly!Ignignokt said:I seriously wonder if someone should be alerted about this guy.Douk said:I actually want to see a persons last seconds of life. The soul leave the face, I have a weird fascination with it.
inb4theemo
This will be far more entertaining then going through the references.Laxman9292 said:easy solution, dont continue to investigate after the fact. once you commit to capital punishment you should be sure of your decision.Xanadu84 said:Even excluding the massive number of things that make Capital Punishment reprehensible, ineffective, costly, inhumane, and just plain dumb, Public executions will do 4 things. 1) Make Martyr 2) Tell the world that killing people is acceptable if you think you have a good reason. 3) Inhumane pain and suffering on the families of the executed 4) Be seen as a truly egregious miscarriage of justice when someone publicly executed is later exonerated.
Capital punishment isnt nearly as costly as life in prison if done right, so im not sure where youre getting your facts from unless its the realm of make-believe. plus it isnt inhumane either, considering lethal injection is quick and relatively painless, even if it werent, they deserve it. Ineffective how? if i knew i could be killed for doing something illegal itd stop me. the only reason people dont think it is a deterrent is because the federally paid for attorneys know how to tie up the legal proceedings to make them last longer getting them employed for longer. killing is completely justifiable, what do you think war is? ok it will only make a martyr if we apply the death penalty for political and or religious crimes where martyrdom could be achieved. how many people are martyrs for dying for the right to wantonly rape others?
EDIT: apologies about the part about costs. i was thinking in an ideal situation where the legal proceedings arent tied up and the process is sped along. otherwise the cost gap decreases
So your saying, if someone rapes your wife, kills your child, throws your dog in a well, and then sets your house on fire that they should just go to jail where they will most likely kill again.StevieWonderMk2 said:You just don't get it do you? The death penalty is more expensive than life in prison. Not through the methods used, but because of the endless appeals and the difficulty in obtaining the death sentence. Understandably the courts want to double and triple check before killing someone.Supreme Unleaded said:Yeah...now, because we have to do everything humanly, wasting thousands of dollars on making a death poison, when we could really do something like this. As stated up a couple of posts.The Infamous Scamola said:Except it actually costs the state less money to keep someone in jail than it does to execute them. So yeah...TheGreatCoolEnergy said:I wise quote indeed. And yes it is hipocritical. But it's like putting out a fire. If a man rapes and kills his girlfriend cause she dumped her, why should the government put thousands of dollars into giving this man free housing, food, water, and electricity for the next twenty years. Wasn't he the one in the wrong?
"Before he was hung from the gallows high, he yelled pleas for mercy. They stopped after a short drop. And a sudden stop."
Quick, simple, cheap, and then the criminal is gone for good, and all it cost is about $25 for the rope.
Yet even with these precautions they still make mistakes. Excuting someone serves no purpose but to fulfill societies lust for revenge.
I'm polite, and don't double post.DannyBoy451 said:Hey buddy!Mrsnugglesworth said:You selfish bastard. (Not you Avykins)
Here's a protip:
If you're going to try and insult me over the internet, at least quote my post or PM me.
Y'know, so its addressed to me directly.
And someone can be proven guilty after they have been set free, raped, and murdered another person since the murder weapon cropped up. This can go both ways.Internet Kraken said:No, I'm talking about the major flaw of the death penalty in general. That someone can be proven innocent after you have killed them.
crudus said:And someone can be proven guilty after they have been set free, raped, and murdered another person since the murder weapon cropped up. This can go both ways.Internet Kraken said:No, I'm talking about the major flaw of the death penalty in general. That someone can be proven innocent after you have killed them.
My point was the same has yours. Someone's verdict can be overturned given new evidence after the consequences have happened. Whether it be they are executed but innocent or kill someone after being proven innocent (in a court of law) then being proven guilty (assuming new evidence was brought up). At that point you figure out what went wrong and try to fix it. People are going to get through the system on both sides. There really is nothing anyone can do about it. This will happen death penalty or not. I am undercutting you whereas you think I am going for a rebuttal.Internet Kraken said:crudus said:And someone can be proven guilty after they have been set free, raped, and murdered another person since the murder weapon cropped up. This can go both ways.Internet Kraken said:No, I'm talking about the major flaw of the death penalty in general. That someone can be proven innocent after you have killed them.
......what's your point?
You're suggesting that not having a death penalty somehow allows dangerous criminals to be found innocent. That makes no sense. The punishment for the crime has nothing to do with the defendant being guilty or innocent.
If you had some other point, then please explain it.
IK, you're a man after my own heart. I would like to give my opinions on this, but you've basically worded everything I would have said.Internet Kraken said:crudus said:And someone can be proven guilty after they have been set free, raped, and murdered another person since the murder weapon cropped up. This can go both ways.Internet Kraken said:No, I'm talking about the major flaw of the death penalty in general. That someone can be proven innocent after you have killed them.
......what's your point?
You're suggesting that not having a death penalty somehow allows dangerous criminals to be found innocent. That makes no sense. The punishment for the crime has nothing to do with the defendant being guilty or innocent.
If you had some other point, then please explain it.