Poll: Public Execution

[Berethond]

That would be pretty cool.

As long as I get to put a head on a pike and parade around Paris with it.

While we're at it, we might as well reenact the whole French revolution, too.

 

[DannyBoy451]

I cannot believe that so many people voted "yes", this is disgusting.

If you want to end a human's life to satisfy your own sense of morality, then you are less of a human.

 

[wordsmith]

"the maximum of deterrent with the minimum of re-offending". The death penalty will make that a reality and prove that we won't tolerate serious crime anymore.

You ever heard of something called a "Crime of passion"?

Basically it's when you do something because it feels right at the time. The majority of murders (no, I don't have a link, it's midnight and I'm going to bed in a bit, it can wait) are committed with no fore-thought, therefore the death penalty is NOT a maximum deterrent.

I accept that a dead guy can't re-offend, but if you're killing someone so they don't commit a crime, why not kill everyone before they have a chance to commit a crime?

EDIT: I've also got a nice "Oh shit" story about rape... All the guys who have ever gone out to a party and hooked up with a drunk girl (either whilst drunk or deliberately), watch this space tomorrow.

 

[axia777]

I cannot believe that so many people voted "yes", this is disgusting.

If you want to end a human's life to satisfy your own sense of morality, then you are less of a human.

You keep telling yourself that.

EDIT: I've also got a nice "Oh shit" story about rape... All the guys who have ever gone out to a party and hooked up with a drunk girl (either whilst drunk or deliberately), watch this space tomorrow.

Sure, tell you story. What are going to try and tell us, that getting it on with a girl after a party while both are drunk is now rape? Because that is seriously laughable. Sure some guys take advantage of women who are near to being passed out. Those guys are cum dogs and are rapists. I guess I wait for your story to see.

 

[DannyBoy451]

I cannot believe that so many people voted "yes", this is disgusting.

If you want to end a human's life to satisfy your own sense of morality, then you are less of a human.

You keep telling yourself that.

Are you going to defend your belief or not?

 

[The Infamous Scamola]

And my answer is: Hell Fucking No. In fact, it makes me think less of you as a person if you think we should do public executions. It means that you get a kick out of it and are no better than the person you're supposedly punishing.

Really? No better than a rapist/child molester/murder? Is that so? That makes no sense. Unless the person calling the execution has actually done the crimes a fore mentioned then yes, they are a better person. Your logic makes no sense at all.

Of course it does. Nobody who is actively against violence will go to a public execution. It's going to be a bunch of sick morbid fucks who get a kick out of seeing someone dieing, and frankly, that doesn't make you any better than the guy getting executed.

I am actually disgusted by real life violence in all it's forms, and that is why I also oppose it as a form of punishment. Because it's hypocritical. Why doesn't the hangman/nurse/executioner/whatever get executed straight after killing the criminal too then? We're trying to teach people that violence and murder is bad... yet we punish them with violence and murder. I'm sorry, but that doesn't make any sense.

I will end my comment with the words of a man much wiser than me:

"An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind."

Mahatma Ghandi

 

[axia777]

I cannot believe that so many people voted "yes", this is disgusting.

If you want to end a human's life to satisfy your own sense of morality, then you are less of a human.

You keep telling yourself that.

Are you going to defend your belief or not?

Why should I? I can tell no matter what I say you will think that people who believe in the death penalty are "less human" or some shit. The argument would go around in circles and no one would change anyone's mind. But so be it I guess. I believe in the death penalty. I even believe that rapists, child molesters and other sex offenders should even be added to the list. The world will be a better place with out these people. Some things don't have to make sense for them to work. My goal is not trying to deter crime as a whole. That is impossible. I just want the people who did the crime do be gone from Planet Earth. Hell, if I could send them to another dimension I would.

I am actually disgusted by real life violence in all it's forms, and that is why I also oppose it as a form of punishment. Because it's hypocritical. Why doesn't the hangman/nurse/executioner/whatever get executed straight after killing the criminal too then? We're trying to teach people that violence and murder is bad... yet we punish them with violence and murder. I'm sorry, but that doesn't make any sense.

I will end my comment with the words of a man much wiser than me:

"An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind."

Mahatma Ghandi

Well, to tell you the truth I never thought Ghandi was so great. But that is just me I guess. Like I said above, get rid of all people who kill and rape. The world will be a better place.

 

[TheGreatCoolEnergy]

And my answer is: Hell Fucking No. In fact, it makes me think less of you as a person if you think we should do public executions. It means that you get a kick out of it and are no better than the person you're supposedly punishing.

Really? No better than a rapist/child molester/murder? Is that so? That makes no sense. Unless the person calling the execution has actually done the crimes a fore mentioned then yes, they are a better person. Your logic makes no sense at all.

Of course it does. Nobody who is actively against violence will go to a public execution. It's going to be a bunch of sick morbid fucks who get a kick out of seeing someone dieing, and frankly, that doesn't make you any better than the guy getting executed.

I am actually disgusted by real life violence in all it's forms, and that is why I also oppose it as a form of punishment. Because it's hypocritical. Why doesn't the hangman/nurse/executioner/whatever get executed straight after killing the criminal too then? We're trying to teach people that violence and murder is bad... yet we punish them with violence and murder. I'm sorry, but that doesn't make any sense.

I will end my comment with the words of a man much wiser than me:

"An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind."

Mahatma Ghandi

I wise quote indeed. And yes it is hipocritical. But it's like putting out a fire. If a man rapes and kills his girlfriend cause she dumped her, why should the government put thousands of dollars into giving this man free housing, food, water, and electricity for the next twenty years. Wasn't he the one in the wrong?

 

[The Infamous Scamola]

I wise quote indeed. And yes it is hipocritical. But it's like putting out a fire. If a man rapes and kills his girlfriend cause she dumped her, why should the government put thousands of dollars into giving this man free housing, food, water, and electricity for the next twenty years. Wasn't he the one in the wrong?

Except it actually costs the state less money to keep someone in jail than it does to execute them. So yeah...

 

[axia777]

Except it actually costs the state less money to keep someone in jail than it does to execute them. So yeah...

Yah right. That is total bullshit. You actually believe that it costs less to house someone for life having to pay for food, water, medical treatment, and all that comes with it than executing them? That is laughable.

 

[DannyBoy451]

I cannot believe that so many people voted "yes", this is disgusting.

If you want to end a human's life to satisfy your own sense of morality, then you are less of a human.

You keep telling yourself that.

Are you going to defend your belief or not?

Why should I? I can tell no matter what you say you will think that people who believe in the death penalty are "less human" or some shit. The argument would go around in circles and no one would change anyone's mind. But so be it I guess. I believe in the death penalty. I even believe that rapists, child molesters and other sex offenders should even be added to the list. The world will be a better place with out these people.

Then I suggest you go and live in a society that practices your idea of justice.

Go to Saudi Arabia, and see the social barbarism that goes hand in hand with a justice system based on revenge and state-sponsored murder.

 

[TheGreatCoolEnergy]

I wise quote indeed. And yes it is hipocritical. But it's like putting out a fire. If a man rapes and kills his girlfriend cause she dumped her, why should the government put thousands of dollars into giving this man free housing, food, water, and electricity for the next twenty years. Wasn't he the one in the wrong?

Except it actually costs the state less money to keep someone in jail than it does to execute them. So yeah...

How does paying for food, water, electricity, housing, and security, for 20 years, cheeper than executing somebody.

 

[Echelon_3]

- It's been said that the definition of a "decent" society is one that does not use its institutions to humiliate its citizens.

- Deterrence has been debunked over and over and over again. There are countries where drug dealers are subject to summary execution without trial. Guess what? They still have drug dealers.

 

[axia777]

Go to Saudi Arabia, and see the social barbarism that goes hand in hand with a justice system based on revenge and state-sponsored murder.

I do. Most American States still do conduct the death penalty.

 

[Lord S. Binkleheimer]

Public Execution?
Heck yea.

Imagine the revenue you could bring in.
Set up a single building for such things and schedule regular executions.
Then charge for admission.

Not only are you saving money by killing the sod, as it is cheaper by far than allowing life in prison...

You'll be making money FOR kiling the person in question.

Despite what most people say, there will be a large group of people going to watch it.
Ever wonder why people will slow down to look at a horrid accident? They want to see this stuff.
Might as well cover the expenses.

 

[Internet Kraken]

Well this is why he would have something called a trial before he was executed. It's not they would arrest the person in question Friday morning and hang him Saturday afternoon.

No, because the death penalty does not put people off actually committing crimes. Unless someone can prove me otherwise, i don't think crime rates are any lower in American states that permit execution than those that do not.

This is because those who commit crimes that could warrant the death penalty would be people mentally screwed up, either emotionally or psychologically. And even a death such as being hung, drawn and quartered will not stop them from committing their crimes. People still committed crimes in the middle ages, even if they would have been killed in hideous barbaric ways. Highway men still robbed coaches despite the corpses of other highwaymen hanging inside gibbets littered the road.

Therefore, i think the death penalty is pointless, and only serves as an act of vengeance rather than justice, which means that the police lose their moral high ground over the criminals they are trying to catch and prosecute. If they are killing out of vengeance, what makes them any better than the people they are killing?

What seperates Jail time from vengence then? Caging somebody for years isn't much of a stretch from killing them, espcialy if the get out and kill/rape again. As far as I'm aware, justice is rewarding the good and punnishing the not so good. And when it comes to things like murder or sexual assult, I just dont see how sitting behind iron for a couple years is adequite punishment for what they did.

I don't recall writing this.

I think you screwed up your quoting.

I wise quote indeed. And yes it is hipocritical. But it's like putting out a fire. If a man rapes and kills his girlfriend cause she dumped her, why should the government put thousands of dollars into giving this man free housing, food, water, and electricity for the next twenty years. Wasn't he the one in the wrong?

Except it actually costs the state less money to keep someone in jail than it does to execute them. So yeah...

How does paying for food, water, electricity, housing, and security, for 20 years, cheeper than executing somebody.

It's because of all the bureaucratic red tape. It's not as simple as signing a sheet of paper and then killing the prisoner. You have to go through tons of legal procedures, and the cost of doing this stacks up over time. I'm not sure if it costs as much as keeping the prisoner alive for x amount of years, but it's still costly.

 

[DrDeath3191]

I don't believe executions in general are needed unless there is no better way to contain the prisoner.

 

[That One Six]

No. It's like saying 'Hey, it's not ok for you to kill someone, but when the government does it, all is good!"

 

[Chicago Ted]

I wish it would.
A single bullet to the dome = about 25 cents.

Years and Years of keeping a convicted child rapist or murder = $232.7 million per year. (in ONE state!)

I think its pretty obvious.

I would like to know where the fuck you pulled that statistic from.

 

[TheGreatCoolEnergy]

I don't recall writing this.

I think you screwed up your quoting.

hmmm sorry if I did my computer isn't overly good.