Poll: punishment for murder

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Robert632

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life in jail.

if he was a seriel rapist-muderer, i'd probably have him killed, but this is probably a one time thing, he'll probably never murder again.
 

clicketycrack

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knight steel said:
Ok heres the the scene:A 28 year old man with no previous record has murded a 21 year old girl by stranglimg her after she had cheated on him then publicy telled every one on radio just to spite him.
She had not told him about her cheating before hand,she was murded that night.Before this crime he was a pefectly stable man with a good steady job.
He has been brought to court and now you have the job of choosing his fate.What will you do out of all the choices(as shown in the poll).
Wow. Is this you asking a hypothetical situation or are you asking for advice. It seemed okay until you got to the part about her declaring it over the radio. That was weirdly specific.
 

SsilverR

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it should depend on the circumstances ... if it was an impulse based, non premeditated on the spot retaliation killing (e.g. you saw someone stab your mum, then flipped out and ripped their fucking face off and pounded their skull into shards) then the person should get off free with lyk 2 years of counselling
 

MiserableOldGit

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SweetCakeKiller said:
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SweetCakeKiller said:
I say that the death sentence is most probably the best way to make sure nothing happens.
An eye for an eye and all that stuff.
But maybe we should just torture him, and bring him to the edge of reason, and then recruit him as a goverment funded super assassin and they send him to do their evil and make sure 'nobody knows what happend'
Okay, hardman, just one thing. If we're going for eye for an eye, what happens when someone is tried and executed, then it is subsequently brought to light that they were innocent? An innocent person has been subjected to a pre-meditated killing. Who do we kill in this instance? How about we have a list of everyone who is pro-capital punishment, as they are the ones responsible for the state taking this action in the first place, and we kill one of them. If it then turns out that the original suspect was guilty after all, we could kill another one. I'll put you down at the top of the list, shall I?

Of course if someone close to you gets you'll probably thirst for blood- thats why we have justice meted out by objective third parties. The point of justice is to ensure the survival of civilisation when individuals deviate from its established values, not to make people feel better.
OK, I"ll admit you've got a point there, but do you know the phrase "to learn from your mistakes"?
If you give him a jail sentence, he's got to come out someday, and if it is life, it would be most possible that he is dead when this happens. And looking at the poll results 'Life in Jail' would certainly be the more popular punishment.
But now, even if a life sentence might be more cost effective than executing him, it also means that you have made the rest of his life a hell. Even if he is instituted in a 'nice' prison. Also if you, after a couple of decennia, trip over something and find out that he is innocent, you might be able to just let him out. But what for? You destroyed his life, his belief in the system, and he has no choice left but to start from scratch. Even if his family still knows him, he has to rebuild his life, at old age.
If you give them the death sentence, it might be harder to correct these cases in the face of the public, but you saved him the trouble of having to deal with his destroyed life, and the possible persecutions for him being wronged. And it opens op some space in this overpopulated world.

PS: You might find this barbaric, but it was alot simpler in the middle ages. you stole something: your hand is chopped of. You ran from the law, 1st time: legs broken and the punishement from wich you ran away. 2nd time: Your heels chopped of. 3rd time: Head get's chopped. This is maybe 'barbaric' but it saves alot of trouble on the ones that stay alive, save for some heart- and/or physical pain.
I see your point but its too much of a compromise. While it may be true that there will be cases where someone doesnt get out of prison till the best years of their life have been and gone, any robust justice system is replete with examples of individuals that have got out at a reasonable age - you can't give those years back, but if someone stole a tenner off me and the police were only able to recover a fiver of it, I'd still rather have the fiver back than nothing at all.
As to the middle ages, thats the bit in history where people stopped washing or seeing to it that they dont shit where they live- I'm not about to take lessons in civilisation off that bunch of stinky illiterates :)
 

Florion

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I say counseling, because it was obviously an unusual moment of anger that overtook him. He was publicly humiliated. He's probably sorry by now, willing to get help.

A whole world blind and toothless... I don't like it.
 

chronobreak

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In this case, she totally had it coming, I'm afraid. I would say give the man community service and counseling to help him cope with what he did, and that's that. Sorry, I don't condone cheating, or public humiliation. This is coming from a married man, as well. In this scenario, she probably ruined this guys life.

Edit: Not condoning murder, murder should never be an answer, but we are talking hypotheticals here.
 

ShotgunSmoke

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I picked nothing to look badass.

The punishment should depend on the type of the committed murder.
If a child is murdered - life in prison. If the murder is extremely brutal - life in prison.
For everything else, 25 to life.
 

AkJay

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Well, i hate bitches, so i say that if she did that to him, he should just get counseling.