Silverfox99 said:
Sonic Doctor said:
The weird thing about your advice it was a college professor that helped me to see how arbitrary grammar can be. It was while taking a class called 'The history of the English Language'. After the class was done and after I had a better understanding of how many rules of grammar were forced upon English, I no longer cared as much to use correct grammar. I care more about being correctly understood. Grammar can help with that but sometimes it hurts and makes English more confusing. Also, from my creative writing experience, it was the teachers that cared more about content and didn't pay much attention to grammar that were better at the craft. They only called out grammar mistakes if it made the work confusing.
Wow, you had quite a different experience than me in "History of the English Language". For me that class was abysmal, I didn't learn anything like that. The first third of the class, the class learned about Old English mainly through some workbook exercises, and then we had to learn how to correctly read and recite Old English. The test for that was that everybody one by one had to get up and read an Old English passage from Beowulf; we were graded one how well we pronounced things and other little points about reading it. The second third of the class was the same as the first third, except that it was own Middle English and the test was to get up in front of the class and read a passage of Middle English writing properly.
Then the last third of the class we had to get into groups for a big debate night. We had three subjects to debate about so there were six groups and three debates. My group debated that technology in some ways has started destroy some parts of the English language and has been of a hindrance to many students and other people. Then one night, everybody was required to drive to the professor's house, because she wanted to have the debate there, like party-dinner/debate night. I didn't get back to my campus apartment until midnight.
On your creative writing classes, I'll just have to say that the professors at your college were different than mine. My professors pointed out grammatical mistakes first then looked at content. Their reasoning was that writing needs to look professional if you want to get publish, and grammatical errors are unprofessional. Plus they would shoot down any notion that errors can be made on purpose for the sake of some artistic angle, because they believed saying so was even more unprofessional because it would make the writers look like they are trying to hide the fact that they have bad writing skills, technical-wise. I guess they looked at it as that if a grammatical error could make at least one person confuse, then corrected, and to make sure, always be correct. I guess I take what they said seriously, because they have been published. Plus they always talked about how they asked their agents and the people that read and selected their works for publication, what should they tell their students is the number one thing they should know about getting published? And everyone told those professors that perfect grammar came first when selecting for publication, that if they found mistakes with the grammar they would throw out the submission immediately, because bad grammar to them is a sign that the writer isn't serious about being published and working with people to get publish.
Well, that is my two cents worth, but as I said, we went to colleges that had two totally different standards when it comes to writing.