Poll: Rate your Intelligence! (UPDATED: NOW WITH I.Q. TEST TO PROVE YOUR BRAVDO!)

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bluepilot

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I would like to think that I am intelligent but my own stupidity never ceases to amaze me

Just the other day, I tried heating a mars bar in the microwave...as awesome as eating the caramel gooey goodness of the walls of the microwave was, in hindsight, it was pretty stupid.
 

Shinsei-J

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I'm going to say genius because that's the only option above "Slightly above average" and I think there should have been a middle ground there.
 

Blood Brain Barrier

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Tanner The Monotone said:
Though if people would look at how easily I can remember things and my puzzle solving skills, they would see how smart I really am.
People with good memories are often poor thinkers. Relying on your memory for everything means you exercise your reasoning less often.
 

Yopaz

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I would place myself slightly above average compared to most of the population. I have a great understanding for politics, language, rhetoric, sociology, science, marketing and some lesser understanding in economy and math. I have a Mensa certificate stating I have an IQ of 148 (though there's probably a fair bit of luck involved) so I think I can rank myself as a bit above average. I'm nowhere near being a genius though.

Comparing to those I am around most of the time and to members of this site I would say I am average. I have seen a lot of smart people around here and there's a lot of smart people in my life.
 

SillyBear

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JeffBergGold said:
Genius.

Please note I believe intelligence is an all encompassing thing a full package. To me literacy does not equal intellectual capacity or even high levels of intelligence. Retaining knowledge is a low level cognitive skill that does not deserve the attribution of intellectual exceptionalism. Retention of data does not equal intellect.

In short GPA/school performance/educational achievement is not indicative of high intellect or intellectual capacity. It is indicative of literacy.

Kinisthetic intelligence: Ability to make the body perform functions such as dance, locomotion, expression of emotion, cns manipulation and other things. I believe people who can't dance well or perform well physically are a bit dumb.

Social intelligence: Ability to interact in groups without coming off as strange involuntarily. The ability to be charming and engaging. I believe awkward people are a bit dumb.

Emotional intelligence: Empathy and the ability to accurately identify other peoples motives, intentions, and whether they are genuine or disingenuous. I believe people who get duped or used as tools are a bit dumb.

Reasoning ability: The ability to formulate and present ideals logically and draw correct conclusions. I believe people who fail in logic are a bit dumb.

Resilience: The ability to maintain a positive self image and emotional state during adversity or negative appraisal. I believe extremely insecure people are a bit dumb.

Discriminating mind: The ability to discriminate between false or detrimental information in favor of facts. I believe people who blindly adhere to things are a bit dumb.

If someone is not in possession of all of the above characteristics I believe them to be of average or below average intelligence.
I fucking love how you call yourself a genius, and say that you adhere to all those arbitrary rules of intelligence - but someone like Neil Armstrong (and other socially awkward men) wouldn't even qualify. What about Stephen Hawking? He is a bit dumb because he can't dance, yo!

Secondly, I don't believe for a second that you tick all those boxes. I certainly believe that you think you do, but a real "genius" would never:

A - be that arrogant.

and

B - act like intelligence is a checklist.

JeffBergGold said:
In short GPA/school performance/educational achievement is not indicative of high intellect or intellectual capacity. It is indicative of literacy.
Ah, let me guess - you never got great school results?

You're acting like doing well in university is all due to "retaining data". That's absurd. For a few reasons:

1. Being able to retain information is an intellectual skill that can show a level of intellect. Remembering the symptoms and being able to diagnose every type of known illness in the world would be an incredible intellectual ability. Technically all that would be is "data retention" but the intellectual process behind that knowledge is incredible.

The retention of data is also an aspect of intelligence from an evolutionary sense. Being able to remember what things are dangerous and what things are not is incredibly important.

Why do you call being able to dance part of intelligence but being able to remember and recite vital information isn't? How fucking arbitrary is that list of yours?

2. No university on Earth just tests data retention. You try doing a final year medical school exam and only "retain information". It is just as much about the application of knowledge as the knowledge itself.

mrdude2010 said:
It's pretty incredible how 45% of the escapist community has above average intelligence.
Precisely what I thought once I saw the poll results. Ah, what pretentious people we hang around.
 

Baron_Rouge

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I read somewhere that about 70% of people think they're a better than average driver. This is a similar sort of thing, I think. But hey, self confidence is good :)
 

JeffBergGold

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SillyBear said:
JeffBergGold said:
Genius.

Please note I believe intelligence is an all encompassing thing a full package. To me literacy does not equal intellectual capacity or even high levels of intelligence. Retaining knowledge is a low level cognitive skill that does not deserve the attribution of intellectual exceptionalism. Retention of data does not equal intellect.

In short GPA/school performance/educational achievement is not indicative of high intellect or intellectual capacity. It is indicative of literacy.

Kinisthetic intelligence: Ability to make the body perform functions such as dance, locomotion, expression of emotion, cns manipulation and other things. I believe people who can't dance well or perform well physically are a bit dumb.

Social intelligence: Ability to interact in groups without coming off as strange involuntarily. The ability to be charming and engaging. I believe awkward people are a bit dumb.

Emotional intelligence: Empathy and the ability to accurately identify other peoples motives, intentions, and whether they are genuine or disingenuous. I believe people who get duped or used as tools are a bit dumb.

Reasoning ability: The ability to formulate and present ideals logically and draw correct conclusions. I believe people who fail in logic are a bit dumb.

Resilience: The ability to maintain a positive self image and emotional state during adversity or negative appraisal. I believe extremely insecure people are a bit dumb.

Discriminating mind: The ability to discriminate between false or detrimental information in favor of facts. I believe people who blindly adhere to things are a bit dumb.

If someone is not in possession of all of the above characteristics I believe them to be of average or below average intelligence.
SillyBear said:
I fucking love how you call yourself a genius, and say that you adhere to all those arbitrary rules of intelligence - but someone like Neil Armstrong (and other socially awkward men) wouldn't even qualify. What about Stephen Hawking? He is a bit dumb because he can't dance, yo!
Pretty much. If Stephen Hawking is so smart why can't he figure out how to walk?

If a guy does poorly with the opposite sex or is socially awkward he is not intelligent.

SillyBear said:
Secondly, I don't believe for a second that you tick all those boxes. I certainly believe that you think you do, but a real "genius" would never:

A - be that arrogant.

and

B - act like intelligence is a checklist.
A: Genius and arrogance are strongly correlated actually. (Humility is pride)
http://www.managementpsychology.com/articles/the-intersection-of-intelligence-and-arrogance/

B: Intellect is a series of markers that gauge abilities and can be quantified into a checklist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_multiple_intelligences

JeffBergGold said:
In short GPA/school performance/educational achievement is not indicative of high intellect or intellectual capacity. It is indicative of literacy.
SillyBear said:
Ah, let me guess - you never got great school results?
Your guess would be incorrect.

SillyBear said:
You're acting like doing well in university is all due to "retaining data". That's absurd.
No it's not absurd. Many college professors have drawn the same conclusion.

SillyBear said:
For a few reasons:

1. Being able to retain information is an intellectual skill that can show a level of intellect. Remembering the symptoms and being able to diagnose every type of known illness in the world would be an incredible intellectual ability. Technically all that would be is "data retention" but the intellectual process behind that knowledge is incredible.
I never stated that it wasn't an intellectual ability. I stated that it is a low level cognitive skill that with enough effort anyone can achieve. Intellect cannot be obtained it is inherent. One can become more literate, not more intelligent.

SillyBear said:
The retention of data is also an aspect of intelligence from an evolutionary sense. Being able to remember what things are dangerous and what things are not is incredibly important.
Low level cognitive skill that everyone on the planet other than those with severe mental disabilities are capable of.

SillyBear said:
Why do you call being able to dance part of intelligence but being able to remember and recite vital information isn't? How fucking arbitrary is that list of yours?
I never said data retention isn't an intellectual ability. I just stated that it is a low level cognitive skill. Being able to retain data is not indicative of exceptional intellect.

SillyBear said:
2. No university on Earth just tests data retention. You try doing a final year medical school exam and only "retain information". It is just as much about the application of knowledge, i.e: using your data and information to determine, diagnose and decipher things.
Intellect is not one dimensional. With enough effort anyone can pass a medical test. Not everyone can be charming or socially savvy though.
 

SillyBear

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JeffBergGold said:
Intellect is not one dimensional.
Never said it was. You're the only one who has been limiting it.

JeffBergGold said:
With enough effort anyone can pass a medical test.
I never said just a "medical test" I said a final year medical exam, implying that someone has gone through university too. And no, not anyone can get a medical degree. Some people don't have the capacity to do it.

JeffBergGold said:
Not everyone can be charming or socially savvy though.
So you are just basing your criteria on things that "not everyone can do"?

Well in that case, not everyone can retain the same amounts of information. The amount of knowledge someone like Albert Einstein was able to retain in regard to mathematics was certainly not achievable for 99% of the population.

So even using your own logic that falls down.
 

dangoball

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According to these numbers I was given when I took my MENSA IQ test six years ago:
140+: genius
111-139: above average (130: lower limit to join MENSA)
90-110: average
<90: below average
I was considered high above average with 132. Not that it actually helped me in any aspect of life, since I was never a top student (too lazy to study) and now I'm a university drop out (just like my supposedly genius brother; we make our parents proud, eh?). Goes to show that hard work can be (and often is) more important than inborn smarts.

I don't like the term "intelligence quotient" anyway, 'cause the only thing it show for sure is ones ability so say which picture completes the pattern. And it's not like the knowledge of that number helps much. You can either not care about it, get arrogant because of it or get frustrated because you could do so much better with your potential. So fuck intelligence, I wanna be a panda!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/92/AverageIQ-Map-World.png
Makes Aussies look kinda bad.

But seriously, some of you being 140+ and you think yourself "slightly above average"? Talk about being humble. Or ill informed.
 

JeffBergGold

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SillyBear said:
JeffBergGold said:
Intellect is not one dimensional.
SillyBear said:
Never said it was. You're the only one who has been limiting it.
Yes, you did.


SillyBear said:
I never said just a "medical test" I said a final year medical exam, implying that someone has gone through university too. And no, not anyone can get a medical degree. Some people don't have the capacity to do it.
Barring severe mental disabilities anyone can if they invest enough effort into it.

JeffBergGold said:
Not everyone can be charming or socially savvy though.
SillyBear said:
So you are just basing your criteria on things that "not everyone can do"?
Nope.

SillyBear said:
Well in that case, not everyone can retain the same amounts of information. The amount of knowledge someone like Albert Einstein was able to retain in regard to mathematics was certainly not achievable for 99% of the population.
Sure they can, just different with different types of information. You're pigeonholing intelligence into one dimension again.


SillyBear said:
So even using your own logic that falls down.
You're confusing my logic with yours.
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs16/f/2007/154/7/d/The_Strawman_Fallacy_by_Elabeth.jpg
 

SillyBear

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JeffBergGold said:
Yes, you did.
Please quote the part where I said intelligence is one dimensional.


JeffBergGold said:
Barring severe mental disabilities anyone can if they invest enough effort into it.
Barring severe physical deformities, anyone can learn to dance or play a sport if they invest enough effort into it.

Same is true for half of the other shit you listed.

What's your point?


SillyBear said:
Sure they can, just different with different types of information. You're pigeonholing intelligence into one dimension again.
No I'm not. All I'm saying is that retaining information is a form of intelligence. I never even half implied that it is only kind. Come on - you're a genius, you should know this. Clearly your "emotional intelligence" isn't quite up to scratch here.

You came out guns blazing saying that retaining information isn't a form of intelligence. I'm saying it certainly is.
 

rayman56

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It's sorta hard for me to decide. Sure I got into a sophomore class my freshman year, and sure Im in all available advanced classes, but I'm as lazy as they come, and I forget a lot of stuff during summer break. My guess would be slightly above average, as I'm book smart and can have a conversation without making a sex joke, which no one else in my school could do, but I'm too forgetful to be a genius.
 

TheTim

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There can never be one list to measure someone's intelligence, different people have different learning styles and different ways of thinking

that being said, I am by no means smarter than normal, but i always did get straight A's because i put in hard work, not because of intelligence
 

MatsVS

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If almost everyone is average or above, isn't 'slightly above average' the new average? Or does the Escapists have an inflated view of themselves? Yeeeeaaaah...
 

Womplord

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It would be nice if there was a rating between genius and slightly above average. I consider myself more intelligent than slightly above average but not a genius.
 

Zack Alklazaris

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I am very smart in some areas. I don't find many people that understand science like I do.
But I make up for it by being an idiot in other areas such as general locations, history, socializing, names, dates, etc.
 

Kragg

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MatsVS said:
If almost everyone is average or above, isn't 'slightly above average' the new average? Or does the Escapists have an inflated view of themselves? Yeeeeaaaah...
both are true in this case

100 being the average across the entire population, it would be higher here as you would need a minimum amount of intel to operate a computer. though i dont beleive for a second people saying they have 140+ those being in the 99.99999999999999999999999%
 

Neonit

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i was tested on iq a couple of times. the results were between 8X-14X
so yeah, i dont trust IQ tests, because according to this i am somewhere between dumb and a genius.

i am lazy as all hells but I did (and still do) very well at school, so i guess above average.
and i most certainly wont call myself a genius because i believe a genius would realise how stupid i am for being so lazy o_O