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PhiMed

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Jarimir said:
PhiMed said:
Limecake said:
shadyh8er said:
It's simple really. The more people who are armed, the less crime there is due to criminals knowing that their victims have guns.
I don't follow your logic, if everyone is armed wouldn't the criminals have them too?They already have them. Arming non-criminals wouldn't make the criminals more armed

It's the police, the great thing about living in the first world is that we have systems in place to make sure the people we put in charge of 'protecting and serving' actually do those things.
Everyone trusts the system, until they are failed by it. A cop shot my friend's grandmother. In the face. When she was unarmed. Because they were serving a no-knock warrant to her next door neighbor, but they had the wrong address.

No one apologized. They tried to demonize her.

They tried to claim she had a weapon (her cane).

Her neighbor was still never arrested.

No police officers were disciplined.

She was 79. They have no justification for entering her house without identifying themselves, but she was killed because she was "resisting arrest" for a charge that has yet to be identified.

People defend the police in this country without question, because "they have such a hard job".

They have one of the few shift jobs left that still offer defined benefit pensions. They get paid, well, for work which requires next to no education. They are respected and venerated in nearly every public venue simply because they are wearing a uniform, and they are protected with the entire weight of the system when they screw up. The police, the district attorney, and the legislature all work together to ruin the life of anyone with a legitimate claim against them.

Google "police officer rape" some time. Very enlightening.

I have met exactly 3 police officers that actually deserve to wear the badge on their chest.

On a related note, if you still believe in "the system", I'll just leave this here.
Now who do you think votes for tough sherifs who hire tough police officers because they want to be tough on crime. It aint the vegan free-loving hippy liberals, it's the chest pounding gun toting conservatives.

You wanted a police state were everyone should be scared of committing a crime, congratulations this is the side effect. People should now be scared of just being suspected of committing a crime, because you never wanted police to ask questions or to give "criminals" rights in the first place.

Newsflash, humane treatment of "criminals" and equal rights WERE ALWAYS meant to protect the innocent falsly accused and NEVER meant to be something extra benefitial to actual criminals.

You put a gun in every home, and guess what. Police conducting a raid are going to be concerned about losing their lives durring that raid. People that are afraid for their lives are prone to shoot 1st and ask questions later. I mean that's why you want a gun, right, because you fear for your life?

I was not there so I cant do more than speculate, but if Jose Guerena had ANY idea that the police were involved he should HAVE NEVER brandished his gun. A case could be made that if he never had a gun in the 1st place he never would have been shot. If marijuana had been legalized, like so many liberals had wanted for YEARS, this incident wouldnt have happened.

Maybe, "no knock" warrents should be outlawed under the "illegal search and siezure" ammendment. But, then that would be considered "soft on crime", and a hard platform for ANY politician to run on.
What's all this "you" stuff? I never wanted any of the things you described. You just set up several straw men, and then congratulated yourself for knocking them over. Um, congrats?