I would say that beating something to death with an improvised club is right in there with straight up horror.hondommond said:
Poll: Resident Evil 6: Probably The Best Zombie Game Ever Made
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Huh...? I don't even...what?
Resident Evil 6 is a 9/10?
Even if you judge it as a standalone game it isn't very good.
I put "No, and I dont want to", because I haven't really played many Resident Evil games. I've played Umbrella Chronicles and a little bit of 4, and need to finish it. So, right now, I don't have much interest in it.
Wayneguard said:Your revisionist history of the resident evil franchise is false. Only people who have beaten the games and know the proper paths to take run around with lots of ammo and herbs. When you first go through the mansion and have no fucking clue where to go, which enemies to expend ammo on or when the next typewriter/herb will come along, you are scared shitless of tackling the next room. Resident Evil 0-3 are about the farthest thing from action horror you can get, unless you consider standing stationary while slowly firing a pea shooter into one or two oncoming enemies a hallmark "action" gameplay.
Evidently, you played the originals and then resi4/5 and were unable to see a difference in form... thus you are deserving of this picture:
This .So much this. I came here to say this , and call OP out for massive fail but i was beat to it .
I missed Resident Evil when it first appeared on the PS1. I didn't really get into the series until REmake and RE0 came out on the GameCube, along with the ports of RE2/RE3/RE:CV and the release of RE4 a little while later. I played RE5 co-op with a college roommate when that came out. So yeah... I've played the main storyline.
I thought RE6 was disappointing. I can rant about how wonky and terrible the controls are, but that's kind of a series staple (although I did find myself annoyed with them more frequently in RE6 than any of the others). I can rant about how bad the game's story and writing are, but that's also kind of a series staple (though in the early games it at least seemed somewhat intentional, as a throwback to 70's/80's horror movies... the more recent RE games though, not so much). I could even rant about how the Chris Redfield campaign at times felt completely indistinguishable from your run-of-the-mill military shooter instead of an RE game.
But I'm not going to.
Because even though the game was disappointing to me as a Resident Evil fan, the game was still fun at times. It has a lot of problems, but it still managed to entertain me every so often. On its own merits, I'd probably give the game a 5 or 6 out of 10. In other words, I'd say it's pretty average. I'd recommend people looking for Co-Op games to give it a try, and I'd recommend fans of the series to play it to get the story details if nothing else... but I wouldn't recommend they buy it right now at full price. In retrospect, I probably shouldn't have paid more than $25 USD for this at most.
I thought RE6 was disappointing. I can rant about how wonky and terrible the controls are, but that's kind of a series staple (although I did find myself annoyed with them more frequently in RE6 than any of the others). I can rant about how bad the game's story and writing are, but that's also kind of a series staple (though in the early games it at least seemed somewhat intentional, as a throwback to 70's/80's horror movies... the more recent RE games though, not so much). I could even rant about how the Chris Redfield campaign at times felt completely indistinguishable from your run-of-the-mill military shooter instead of an RE game.
But I'm not going to.
Because even though the game was disappointing to me as a Resident Evil fan, the game was still fun at times. It has a lot of problems, but it still managed to entertain me every so often. On its own merits, I'd probably give the game a 5 or 6 out of 10. In other words, I'd say it's pretty average. I'd recommend people looking for Co-Op games to give it a try, and I'd recommend fans of the series to play it to get the story details if nothing else... but I wouldn't recommend they buy it right now at full price. In retrospect, I probably shouldn't have paid more than $25 USD for this at most.
I hope everyone is aware that Resident Evil coined the term "survival horror". So saying that it was never survival horror is about the most wrong you could be.
Other than that, if you liked it, great. I thought it was pretty turdy. Opinions, man.
Other than that, if you liked it, great. I thought it was pretty turdy. Opinions, man.
I'm actually envious that you liked it so much as the demo was more than enough for me to hate the game for life. I'm playing though the Devil May Cry HD Collection games in order and I've just finished DMC2, I see both of them as having similar problems. Ie the controls are crap, it's too dark, the camera is worse than DMC1 and it's too easy so that I blasted though the game just by mashing the buttons with little interest in combos.
RE6 and DMC2 has most of the hallmarks and elements as their previous titles, but is done in such a slapdash way that it's surprising they are both from the same series and developer.
Reading your OP i'm puzzled as to how you see the game as looking beautiful. To me it looked really bad, everything from the fact it was too dark to see anything, the textures and the light / shadowing effects during daytime.
RE6 and DMC2 has most of the hallmarks and elements as their previous titles, but is done in such a slapdash way that it's surprising they are both from the same series and developer.
Reading your OP i'm puzzled as to how you see the game as looking beautiful. To me it looked really bad, everything from the fact it was too dark to see anything, the textures and the light / shadowing effects during daytime.
First of all, I don't believe you can retroactively remove the "Survival Horror" label from the original(s). If you played them recently, then you should remember upon loading a save the statement "You have once again entered the world of survival horror". Capcom was the trope-namer, the genre exists because RE1 called it that.
If you beat RE: Code Veronica in 3 hours, then you are among the best gamers in the world and can beat any situation and I understand how nothing could scare you as it's all defeatable. From my research, the world un-assisted speed record is 2 hours, 28 minutes.
If my opinion matters, I don't give a good god damn whether 6 is horror, survival horror, or any kind of genre. As a game on its own merits, it fails. The dizzying camera shaking, the incessant QTEs, overpowered joke melee combat, being forced to play online or babysit an AI companion if I want to play alone, and an engine that is somehow worse than 5 with even worse shooting controls make it a bad game by any name or genre IMO.
EDIT: I don't know how others feel, but I find it insulting to be told that I'm "following the herd" just because my opinion happens to be in line with a majority of others. Godwin's Law and all, but I'll happily "follow the herd" in being glad that Hitler is dead.
If you beat RE: Code Veronica in 3 hours, then you are among the best gamers in the world and can beat any situation and I understand how nothing could scare you as it's all defeatable. From my research, the world un-assisted speed record is 2 hours, 28 minutes.
If my opinion matters, I don't give a good god damn whether 6 is horror, survival horror, or any kind of genre. As a game on its own merits, it fails. The dizzying camera shaking, the incessant QTEs, overpowered joke melee combat, being forced to play online or babysit an AI companion if I want to play alone, and an engine that is somehow worse than 5 with even worse shooting controls make it a bad game by any name or genre IMO.
EDIT: I don't know how others feel, but I find it insulting to be told that I'm "following the herd" just because my opinion happens to be in line with a majority of others. Godwin's Law and all, but I'll happily "follow the herd" in being glad that Hitler is dead.
Depends on how you play them.hondommond said:
When I owned the original RE and Dino Crisis, I would always try to avoid shooting zombies/ dinos/ zombies, instead opting to run past them. So for me, yes, they were survival horror.
I think I was able to beat the original RE using nothing more than a pistol (and maybe the occasional shotgun round. I could go through the whole game without killing anything other than the bosses.
Also, have you tried playing RE gamecube remake on the harder settings?
I think this is the most important point. Sure, you could easily pick apart what counts and survival horror and what doesn't. You can even do so retroactively if that floats your boat. Those goalposts have been moved before, and they'll likely be moved again. At it's heart, though, RE6 is still clearly an action game and that's where it at worst fails miserably and at best barely scrapes by. Other than any minute appeal that the RE name still holds, there are tons of better action games out there these days in pretty much every way. If "the best zombie game" is only equal to a middling "non zombie game" then I weep for the quallity of "zombie games."DrunkOnEstus said:
And yeah, I don't agree with the OP and thus am part of the herd. Baaaah.
No, just no. I know I'm supposed to respect others opinions and all that, but I don't think I've ever read a more dumber statement than "Resident Evil was never actually survival horror"
As others have pointed out it's the trope namer for survival horror. You literally can't get much more wrong with that. Also I don't get if this is a joke or not, just because the scares didn't affect you as much as others doesn't make the scares less valid, it simply means YOU weren't scared or didn't feel the tension of the older games. The whole thing is subjective, and your whole argument falls apart with that.
So I honestly got to ask, are you freaking serious?
edit: replaying games tends to dull the shock values of them, so that's another factor you kind of undercut.
As others have pointed out it's the trope namer for survival horror. You literally can't get much more wrong with that. Also I don't get if this is a joke or not, just because the scares didn't affect you as much as others doesn't make the scares less valid, it simply means YOU weren't scared or didn't feel the tension of the older games. The whole thing is subjective, and your whole argument falls apart with that.
So I honestly got to ask, are you freaking serious?
edit: replaying games tends to dull the shock values of them, so that's another factor you kind of undercut.
Capcom never actually called RE6 'survival horror'. They call it 'dramatic horror'.FalloutJack said:
I really liked RE6, but I felt as though the distinction is important. They went and invented a new subgenre for this game to be put into, and then people (both reviewers and gamers) review bomb it for not being survival horror. Which it was never claimed to be in the first place. Derp.
Right because RE6 is ragged on primarily because it's not dramatic horror/survival horror. So you're saying, it has absolutely nothing to do with it being a bit of a mess. Although I will agree the Destructoid review gave it a score equaling it to be unplayable, but IGN's review was pretty fair a high seven for an average game with it's head stuck up its on arse.Kopikatsu said:
Let me point out from the poll 52% of the people have not played it and don't plan to. If you haven't played it and you say its a bad game. To me that means one thing...You heard someone elses review of it and your opinion is bias to what they think...Following the herdDrunkOnEstus said:
I've only played the demo so far and what i saw i didn't really like. The melee is way overpowered and in places it felt more like Left for dead than anything else.
That said i am looking forward to playing the whole thing through. I know it won't be as good as 5 but i still think there will be enough there to keep me interested to the end. Not sure about replay value but i'll be renting it so that doesn't really matter.
OP I agree with Dead rising 2 and to a small degree Left for dead 2. Both are good fun in small doses. But i think i'd have to add Black ops as number 3 for zombie fun...that shit is quality
That said i am looking forward to playing the whole thing through. I know it won't be as good as 5 but i still think there will be enough there to keep me interested to the end. Not sure about replay value but i'll be renting it so that doesn't really matter.
OP I agree with Dead rising 2 and to a small degree Left for dead 2. Both are good fun in small doses. But i think i'd have to add Black ops as number 3 for zombie fun...that shit is quality