Poll: Revenge

[The Eggplant]

I don't believe so. I don't even think that death is the worst punishment you can give someone.

Fixed that for ya.

OT: StrangerMouse speaks truth, actually. Death is a RELEASE, if anything...I'd be much less afraid of drifting to sleep than living my entire life in solitary confinement, arbitrarily removed from the rest of society.

Do I believe in the principle of revenge on a general basis? Absolutely...I'm about as vindictive as they come. Do I think the death penalty properly executes (pardon the pun) that principle? No, not really.

 

[The Maddest March Hare]

It might be justified, but I'd never want to. I like my opponents to know I've defeated them, humiliated them and left them with nothing. Killing them outright is a brief pleasure. Watching them suffer for the rest of their miserable lives is considerably more entertaining.

 

[cuddly_tomato]

Ohh capital punishment. It is one of the internets favorite topics, and always likely to wind up with a lot of previously friendly people tearing each others throats out.

I think the idea that people be executed because they "cost money" to be abhorrent in the extreme. Putting a dollar value on a human life - any life - sets an extremely bad precident and one which sacrifices human dignity for the sake of greed.

I don't really know what to think about it from an ethical stance, although I do feel that executing people because killing is wrong to be something of a double standard. Furthermore no justice system of any country is 100% reliable, so during any execution there is a risk that an innocent is being put to death with your tax dollars.

 

[Jedoro]

Yeah, I think it's justified. It saves tax dollars for keeping them locked up, keeps them from killing again, and brings the satisfaction of knowing the murderer got what he or she deserved and didn't just get away with it.

 

[Xojins]

No, I don't think it's justified. Even though I would definitely go for revenge in a situation like that, it's not justified.

 

[NeedAUserName]

I think if the families want revenge that way, instead of lethal injection (or however its being done), the family should have to do it themselves. And if they can't you get of scott free you get locked in a tiny cage for the rest of your life.

 

[PHOENIXRIDER57]

It's an "eye for an eye" type of deal. I think it's ok.

 

[xdgt]

It's only fair, treat someone as you you would like to be treated, they killed and should be killed in return. If not to make the society a safe and better place, then atleast to give the victims something in return. It's not about taking pleasure (though they deserve some pleasure considering the murderer stole their source of joy) but about having a life for a life. To let a murderer live is a hypocrisy.

 

[Penguinness]

I heard, but can't find information about (so let's just say hypothetically for the time being) a group of jewish people that planned to poison and kill a huge number of germans after WW2 as an act of revenge. I think that it would've been a terrible thing to do.. but I wouldn't have exactly hated them for it. Would it be justified though, as it's debatable if they would have killed those responsible or if they were killing innocents.

If I hear about someone killing another I feel hatred towards that person.. but when someone kills another out of revenge, I don't really. I don't feel good about it either though. If it happened to me personally and they shot one of my family I would feel completely justified about shooting them.. probably the knee-caps first. It's not so much about enjoying their suffering but making them feel yours.

 

[Ham_authority95]

I could never bring myself to kill someone. And not only that, but I probably wouldn't know who or were the killer is.

I would, however, do my best to at least keep them in jail for life.

 

[Marik2]

I don't agree with the death penalty, as I cherish all human life. Killing another isn't something I think is a good thing, and doing it as a punishment for their crimes doesn't teach them anything. All it does is end their life, which once ended, no longer matters to them.

My thought's exactly as the old saying goes, "An eye for an eye turns everyone blind." And I'm probably gonna be flamed for saying that.

 

[Trivun]

Hell no. I support the death penalty, but because it's justice and retribution. Revenge is entirely different. Revenge is taking joy in the fact that you're causing pain to those who did pain to you. Retribution, and justice, are causing pain for someone because it's what they deserve, for the reason of causing pain to you. As soon as you take joy in that, it's no longer justified, and no longer retribution. Revenge is wrong, retribution is right.

So I don't agree that revenge is a reason for the death penalty, but I do believe in the death penalty for it's other pros. For example, do you really want to have a child rapist or a serial killer either released after 30-odd years, or else kept in prison on taxpayer's money for the rest of their lives? Or would you rather they die (quick or not doesn't matter here), so they're no longer able to do those things again, and we save all that money, all those resources, that can be used to help the good of society?

 

[Marter]

I don't agree with the death penalty, as I cherish all human life. Killing another isn't something I think is a good thing, and doing it as a punishment for their crimes doesn't teach them anything. All it does is end their life, which once ended, no longer matters to them.

My thought's exactly as the old saying goes, "An eye for an eye turns everyone blind." And I'm probably gonna be flamed for saying that.

Not by me at least.

Pretty much my thoughts. Additional death doesn't help anyone.

 

[xdgt]

Here's another thought, if you don't kill them they will either be contained in prison for the rest of their lives further stealing everybody's money or they reintegrate the society free to kill more victims. Good old debate for lesser evil - kill one today save ten tomorrow.

 

[Marik2]

I don't agree with the death penalty, as I cherish all human life. Killing another isn't something I think is a good thing, and doing it as a punishment for their crimes doesn't teach them anything. All it does is end their life, which once ended, no longer matters to them.

My thought's exactly as the old saying goes, "An eye for an eye turns everyone blind." And I'm probably gonna be flamed for saying that.

Not by me at least.

Pretty much my thoughts. Additional death doesn't help anyone.

You should watch an anime called Grenadier it has a strong pacifist message and one episode dealt with the death penalty it was really interesting.

 

[Marter]

I don't agree with the death penalty, as I cherish all human life. Killing another isn't something I think is a good thing, and doing it as a punishment for their crimes doesn't teach them anything. All it does is end their life, which once ended, no longer matters to them.

My thought's exactly as the old saying goes, "An eye for an eye turns everyone blind." And I'm probably gonna be flamed for saying that.

Not by me at least.

Pretty much my thoughts. Additional death doesn't help anyone.

You should watch an anime called Grenadier it has a strong pacifist message and one episode dealt with the death penalty it was really interesting.

I shall watch it then. Thanks for alerting me to its presence.

 

[Tdc2182]

It's not revenge, it's punishment.

Or

"An eye for an eye makes the whole world look funny, because no one has eyes" -Tod Ghandi.

 

[Marik2]

I don't agree with the death penalty, as I cherish all human life. Killing another isn't something I think is a good thing, and doing it as a punishment for their crimes doesn't teach them anything. All it does is end their life, which once ended, no longer matters to them.

My thought's exactly as the old saying goes, "An eye for an eye turns everyone blind." And I'm probably gonna be flamed for saying that.

Not by me at least.

Pretty much my thoughts. Additional death doesn't help anyone.

You should watch an anime called Grenadier it has a strong pacifist message and one episode dealt with the death penalty it was really interesting.

I shall watch it then. Thanks for alerting me to its presence.

No problem its only 13 episodes and has a great dub (IMO)

 

[FlameUnquenchable]

I personally don't subscribe to revenge as a justifiable action. That doesn't mean that if someone did something horrible and I had a chance to make them pay, I wouldn't do everything in my power to make them suffer before they die. However humanitarian rights groups would have a field day, with what I would call retribution.

I would love to be pacifist, and think that everything is going to be a-ok and we can rehabilitate everyone and they will become productive members of society, but I know that's not the case.

For those who say that one innocent could die, this is true, but you cannot make laws for the exceptions to the rule. You make rules, then you make exceptions on an individual basis. I hear people all of the time trying to say that laws should be make for the exceptions to a situation and not for what happens the majority of the time. The majority behavior is what you have to base your laws on, or the system just ends up being a hodge podge mess with no real boundaries and extremely exploitable.