Poll: RPG Cliches you want to destroy

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Dancingman

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I've lately gone about to find every cliche in RPGs, my personal "favorites" are "reptiles=evil" "the villain has no redeeming qualities" and "High fantasy always means drunken dwarves and tree-hugging elves"

But enough of my rant, what about everyone else, what cliches in RPGs are guaranteed to drive you berserk?
 

unholy vagrant

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I want the Mary Sue female lead cliche to die. This is the only big cliche that really bothers me though.

By the way, go here for the best list of cliches.
http://project-apollo.net/text/rpg.html

My favorite is the McGuyver rule.
 

blackadvent

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"Oh wait! You've been fighting for the wrong side for 95% of the game!"

"Oh wait! The villain is actually your dad!"

"Oh no! You're the chosen one!" Though that one's not a sanity killer, just annoying.

"That thing you JUST sold me? No.... no I already lost it."
 

AlisonPrime

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that obvious square enix opening to rpgs that are not Final Fantasy

"Son, will you go pick me a flower"
"NO! NEVER GRANDMA!"
"Why not pooky"
"because, the moment i turn around, the village will be on fire, you will be dying, and telling me im not like the rest of you"
"pooky, thats crazy"
"Really? I got pink hair, Devil's wings, A tail, hoof feet, and i swing a sword that could make up for the entire village's manhood"
"Pooky, your grandpa used to pick me flowers"
"oh fine!"
*turns around, the village is on fire, his grandma is dying"
"Pooky...your not like the rest of us...."
"Call square enix, i QUIT!!!!"
 

Alone Disciple

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-You wake up with no memory of who you are.

-You are the 'one' that every prophecy has foretold about.

-Your sidekick is usually some sort of dumb comic relief.

-You hold the 'key', 'the code', 'the formula', 'the whatever' that will change the fate of everything.

-Your world is dead/dying.
 

AlisonPrime

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Alone Disciple post=9.73163.785380 said:
-You wake up with no memory of who you are.

-You are the 'one' that every prophecy has foretold about.

-Your sidekick is usually some sort of dumb comic relief.

-You hold the 'key', 'the code', 'the formula', 'the whatever' that will change the fate of everything.

-Your world is dead/dying.
the wold is dead/dying worked well in Wild Arms 2, dont knock it too much.
 

Eiseman

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Good Guys: Let's gather all the shiny stones before the bad guy can get them!

Later...

Good Guys: Yes! We have all the shiny stones!

Villain: Bwa ha ha ha! Little did you realize that I wanted you to gather the shiny stones so that I can take them from you all at once!

Every. Fucking. Time. This is also related to another stupid plot device:

Good Guys: We have to open the special door that holds the source of ultimate power!

Villain: Thank you for opening the special door that holds the source of ultimate power! YOINK.
 

number2301

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A gameplay cliché rather than a storyline one, turn based combat. Either do proper strategic stuff like XCom or do actual proper combat. Turn based 1 on 1s aren't fun.
 

Dancingman

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I have to agree with that, to me, combat means "kill your enemies without discretion" not "sit around taking turns like children"
 

N1ghtNinja

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unholy vagrant post=9.73163.785364 said:
I want the Mary Sue female lead cliche to die. This is the only big cliche that really bothers me though.

By the way, go here for the best list of cliches.
http://project-apollo.net/text/rpg.html

My favorite is the McGuyver rule.
BS.
 

Bling Cat

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I just realised how many of these now apply to the Golden Sun games. Except they started them. Ahh, its always fun to see something like that. Anyway, the things that annoy me... possibly the whole 'We're only 12, yet we can lift huge Fuck You swords that could cleave a man in half. Except they cant, because they're blunt as a bloody foam mallet.'
 

N1ghtNinja

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People simply like stuff like this stuff, live with it. I've been living with the horrible thought that the Mario franchise will never end for 5 years now. Just leave it be. At least Mario is not invading my dreams anymore.
 

Limos

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random encounters need to die, you should be able to see all enemies beforehand, they shouldn't just pop out of nowhere while the screen swirls into a battle scene.
 

Dancingman

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I've also noticed how the high priests are always in the evil religion that sacrifices virgins, I think its weird how there's no middle ground between saintly virtue and obnoxious malevolence.
 

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TheMadDoctorsCat post=9.73163.785771 said:
Fighting rodents at low levels. I want to save the world, not chop up friggin' rats with swords!
I am TIRED of these MOTHERFUCKING rats in this MOTHERFUCKING cellar!

Honestly...what do they FEED those things?
 

Amnestic

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"Son, will you go pick me a flower"
"NO! NEVER GRANDMA!"
"Why not pooky"
"because, the moment i turn around, the village will be on fire, you will be dying, and telling me im not like the rest of you"
"pooky, thats crazy"
"Really? I got pink hair, Devil's wings, A tail, hoof feet, and i swing a sword that could make up for the entire village's manhood"
"Pooky, your grandpa used to pick me flowers"
"oh fine!"
*turns around, the village is on fire, his grandma is dying"
"Pooky...your not like the rest of us...."
"Call square enix, i QUIT!!!!"
I've seen that before, but for the life of me I can't remember what it was.

As for me, I want goblins to pose a real threat to people. Not the pussies you see these days. That way some RPG enthusiast will see a goblin and think "Easy kill!" and charge right in. The goblin will then stun the enthusiast and summon two dozen of his friends and rape said enthusiast with their weaponry.
 

Pigeon_Grenade

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unholy vagrant post=9.73163.785364 said:
I want the Mary Sue female lead cliche to die. This is the only big cliche that really bothers me though.

By the way, go here for the best list of cliches.
http://project-apollo.net/text/rpg.html

My favorite is the McGuyver rule.
its simple, i agree with him
 

fluffylandmine

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N1ghtNinja post=9.73163.785449 said:
People simply like stuff like this stuff, live with it. I've been living with the horrible thought that the Mario franchise will never end for 5 years now. Just leave it be. At least Mario is not invading my dreams anymore.
you lucky son of a mushroom...