Poll: Sci-Fi vs. Fantasy,who wins?
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The Call of Cthulhu isn't fantasy at all, it's pure Sci-Fi. Alien god that partially exists on a different plain of existance, is metaphysical, and abides in a city of 'impossible dimentions' = Sci-Fi. He is a 'lesser' god, not an alien, a true deity. He is on par with earth's gods who in turn answer to ancient and more powerful beings which cannot be comprehended by the mind of mankind. We are ants to Cthulhu, who is a cell to them.
I'm getting the metal image of Gandalf VS Darth Vader...
Fantasy is more 'destructive' There are beings of great power who can wipe out civilizations, some sci-fi has that (like Lovecraft's stuff), but it leans more towards Star Trek or Star Wars, spaceships and laser swords. Discounting gods and both sides, I am thinking Sci Fi. Middle Earth can have a battalion of Saurons, it doesn't amount to much when they're being turned to ash by a Death Star.
I'm getting the metal image of Gandalf VS Darth Vader...
Fantasy is more 'destructive' There are beings of great power who can wipe out civilizations, some sci-fi has that (like Lovecraft's stuff), but it leans more towards Star Trek or Star Wars, spaceships and laser swords. Discounting gods and both sides, I am thinking Sci Fi. Middle Earth can have a battalion of Saurons, it doesn't amount to much when they're being turned to ash by a Death Star.
I prefer science fiction; there are a near infinite number of ways for SF to pan out, but fantasy can only go so far before it passes into J.R.R. Tolkien's back yard.
SirBryghtside said:
Je Suis Ubermonkey said:
To all of you, try staring down this:TheRightToArmBears said:
The God-Emperor of Mankind fighting the Warmaster Horus, his genetic son? I think we all know who wins here...
I like Sci Fi more as it tends to not sit with the crappy, basic myths and legends like Minotaur, trolls, orc and elves, which I have grown very tired of. Only issue is my opinion may become the same for Sci Fi as it seems the Cyber punk theme is starting to make a wedge with Hard Reset, Human Revaluation and the Syndicate.
Okay yer you just extended my opinion that Sci-Fi is better by a mile. I do find it strangely ironic that one of the best Sci-Fi worlds uses such vast quantities of fantasy elements.Da Orky Man said:To all of you, try staring down this:
The God-Emperor of Mankind fighting the Warmaster Horus, his genetic son? I think we all know who wins here...
alot of games have both. Final fantasy games(almost all of them), Star ocean,Xenosaga, etc. Hell even the marvel universe says they were one in the same thanks to thors ppl.Stargate and doctor who had them too as well as the fable star trek series. Tell me the Q's wern't for all intensive purposes gods
Fantasy wins by literal definition.
Both are the same but they are also polar opposites in terms of order and chaos. Science is defined by order, theories, tests and experiments and even though it's fictional, it requires plausibility for it to exist.
Fantasy on the other hand, is imagination itself. That's the literal definition, imagination. Imagination is determined by the person at hand, and thus anyone who imagines themselves "Impervious to even the power of a god," immediately trumps anything science can ever come up with.
Both are the same but they are also polar opposites in terms of order and chaos. Science is defined by order, theories, tests and experiments and even though it's fictional, it requires plausibility for it to exist.
Fantasy on the other hand, is imagination itself. That's the literal definition, imagination. Imagination is determined by the person at hand, and thus anyone who imagines themselves "Impervious to even the power of a god," immediately trumps anything science can ever come up with.
Isn't Sci-fi at it's most technical definition still part of the larger Fantasy genre? At least thats the way I see it, so I'm going to have to vote for fantasy
Nihei Tsutomu sees your Gods, Dragons, and Magic and raises you handheld weapons that make the Imperium of Man's titans look like pea-shooters, an infinite number of machine soldiers that make the armies of hell seem pleasant by comparison, and atomic manipulation. And that's just Blame!.
they are the same damn thing, to quote Arthur C. Clark, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
fantasy is just that, fantasy, it has next to limitless amounts of power because it is "fantasy", the word itself destroys what sci fi stands for.
oh that gattling laser you destroyed that godlike being for? yeah well my mage is a demi god that is drawing power from the nether realm itself for limitless power.
oh that gattling laser you destroyed that godlike being for? yeah well my mage is a demi god that is drawing power from the nether realm itself for limitless power.
