Poll: Sci-Fi vs. Fantasy,who wins?

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UsefulPlayer 1

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I really like this question. The idea of Sci-Fi and Fantasy in fact being two separate things, but things we both love oh so much.

Like Starwars and Lord of the Rings.
 

stonethered

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Why should they have to be mutually exclusive? I LOVE watching a team of mages land on the planet's surface to take on a Mad scientist's army of Mech driving crystal golems.
 

emeraldrafael

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Depends on your stance on magic and how powerful it will be. All the tech in the world cant stop a poewrful spell. Or break through it.
 

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I'd like to point out that science could easily win the ground battle as well. The most useful thing about firearms is that they require almost no training to be used, and you don't have to stand in intimidating and pretty lines to use them. An army of horse-backed mounted swordsman would just get creamed about a hundred or two hundred yards away. there goes about 5 years of training, and if you want more, another 5 years are going to have to be spent training them.
You can't pull the gods, cause they have their own set up and could side with sci-fi if they feel they have the stronger chance of victory. Quite a few fantasy gods don't like humanity cause they created them, they like them because they are the strongest guys on the planet who still worship them. But it would still be interesting, because if the gods do side with fantasy, it would be a very close match, until the commander goes "oh well I've had my fun. Biological, nuclear and all sorts of other nasty bombs ftw!" and then drops them hard on the planet.
 

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FPSfanatic said:
... it would be a very close match, until the commander goes "oh well I've had my fun. Biological, nuclear and all sorts of other nasty bombs ftw!" and then drops them hard on the planet.
I think you're underestimating the power of a god.
 

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emeraldrafael said:
FPSfanatic said:
... it would be a very close match, until the commander goes "oh well I've had my fun. Biological, nuclear and all sorts of other nasty bombs ftw!" and then drops them hard on the planet.
I think you're underestimating the power of a god.
Did I say the nukes would kill the gods? Sure, the gods may survive, but the planet won't. unless you suggest that the gods stop the missiles, but since they aren't omnipotent, they could only stop so much. plus there is the consideration of whether a god could be hurt by a nuclear device. It's possible, since in several fantasy stories gods have been wounded by normal people.
Of course, I'd be more interested in a "good science fiction and fantasy versus bad science fiction and fantasy" simply because that at least makes some sense. chaos space marines and space marines would never work together after, just like how the covenant and the UNSC would never agree to fight together.
 

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FPSfanatic said:
emeraldrafael said:
FPSfanatic said:
... it would be a very close match, until the commander goes "oh well I've had my fun. Biological, nuclear and all sorts of other nasty bombs ftw!" and then drops them hard on the planet.
I think you're underestimating the power of a god.
Did I say the nukes would kill the gods? Sure, the gods may survive, but the planet won't. unless you suggest that the gods stop the missiles, but since they aren't omnipotent, they could only stop so much. plus there is the consideration of whether a god could be hurt by a nuclear device. It's possible, since in several fantasy stories gods have been wounded by normal people.
Of course, I'd be more interested in a "good science fiction and fantasy versus bad science fiction and fantasy" simply because that at least makes some sense. chaos space marines and space marines would never work together after, just like how the covenant and the UNSC would never agree to fight together.
The idea of a god is that it is by definition omnipotent, and once they transcend to earth they give up their full god power (if they so choose) to be more mortal. More often then not, the god is hurt by its own creation, made specifically to kill a god that a mortal finds that has ties to the gods (whether being chosen or birthed by them).

So yes, Im going to say that by definition of what it means to be godly, they are omnipotent and could not only stop the missile, but also negate its effect and destroy its sender.

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And thats before we even add magic into the mix. and I'll just say, I've seen POWERFUL magic before, that nukes and even the force of the big bang itself would quake and fear before.
 

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This is pretty simple, if we're talking hard sci-fi vs low fantasy, hard sci-fi would win (hard sci-fi being realistic stuff aka no Q no gods no replicators etc, and low fantasy would be like Game of Thrones, the first book). Hard sci-fi vs high fantasy, high fantasy would win (aka marvel Thor). And with soft sci-fi which is anything like Q, gods, replicators etc, is just magic that is instead of chanting you hit a button so against low fantasy it would be people with "magic" (soft sci-fi) vs low fantasy, people without magic, so soft sci-fi would win and soft sci-fi vs high fantasy who can tell the difference, they both use magic it's just who chants and who push's a button.
 

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They both have powerful allies, warriors, powers, etc.

Sci-Fi said:
Superior technology, limitless races from limitless amounts of worlds, Giant Fighting Robots, FLT travel, Space Colonies, Planet-destroying weaponry, Planet-Sized weaponry, Genetic Engineering (which can result in Dragons and, clones), Advanced Cybernetics (which can also result in Dragons and, human-replacing cyborgs), Laser-guns, Laser-Swords
Fantasy said:
Multiple races, Magic, Dragons, Purebred Mythical Creatures, Gods, Goddesses, Mythril, Fate/Destiny
Despite all of the advantages Sci-Fi has, you really can't beat the power of Fate. Sci Fi has The Force but only in Star Wars. Fate and Destiny are always huge in fantasy whereas Sci-Fi don't seem to use that as often (or maybe I'm just missing it). As for Gods and Goddesses, they can always be killed, beaten, defeated, etc. Thanos, Galactus, Zeus, Hercules...All beaten by supposedly lesser creatures at one point or another. It's a really close call.

Personally though, I prefer Sci-Fi. I loves me some Fantasy but Sci-Fi is my favorite.
 

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Timedraven 117 said:
EvilMaggot said:
Je Suis Ubermonkey said:
Fantasy has Magic, Gods, Gods, Goddesses, more Gods, Demigods and demigoddesses. Oh, and Gods. Did I mention all the Gods?

Sci-fi can't beat Gods.

L'edito: Damn ninjas. Maybe I should spend less time per post typing the word Gods.
hmm... Doesnt Warhammer 40k have thier gods aswell... the daemon thingy's and so on ? :)
Not Daemon thingys they are dark chaos gods, representing the 4 horrors of the universe! they will crush you just with a glance. and yes they do have a various assortment of gods that they can pull the 'god card' on.
Sci-fi winss because the only thing fantasy barely has going for it is the god card and that is very losse. And there soldiers numbers are either couintered withthe technology or countered in numbers as well as with the technology bonus. The sci fi armour can be near impervious from the fantasy weapons, not to metion the ability to scare the enemy into submission in just a few battles. I could go on and on with this but that would be long.
and i thought i was the only one that escaped from the looney bin <_< ... glad im not lonely yay! <3
 

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Due to the limitless number of people in a Sci-Fi universe, advanced tech that can destroy worlds, access to some of their own gods, and the fact most rain hot lead from the sky against people with swords I'm giving it to Sci-Fi hands down.
 

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flamingjimmy said:
WOPR said:
(Warhammer 40,000 - the definition of sci-fi, still has gods, and magick, and breasts, and daemons... Sci-fi wins because it has everything fantasy has, AND MORE)
Warhammer 40K is not the 'definition of sci fi'. Just because something is set in the future and has laser guns and ftl travel does not proper sci fi make imo. Warhammer 40K is a soft as sci fi ever comes. Don't get me wrong, I love it to bits, but it is not a proper deep sci fi, and certainly doesn't define the genre.
sorry I was a bit hyper when I typed that part... plus I just had people tell me that space mane ripped off gears of war and yeaaaaaaaaah... I'm gunna edit that bit...
 

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It always depends on the respective settings.

Game of thrones against starwars and there would be a lot of dead swordsmen.

Firefly against Warcraft and it would be a little more evenly matched.
 

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Fantasy uses magic. Magic isn't bound by the law of physics and science is. Thus, fantasy would win by default.
 

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SirBryghtside said:
Well, fantasy can pretty much call the God card depending on the setting, so they would clearly win.
Yes, then think to many books where gods are SUPPOSED to be a big role, but its just the person doing it.

I think Sci Fi, simply for pure power, arrows can't pierce space marine armor, so I doubt they can stop a chainsaw sword.
 

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PUR3_GAM3R33 said:
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs46/i/2010/168/7/a/Sci_Fi_vs__Fantasy_by_DanilLovesFood.jpg
1600x533? What kind of monitor are you using?

OT: Neither. They are both equal, and thus are most powerful when they work together. Perfect example of this: Star Wars. It's got both a sci-fi setting and mystic fantasy mumbo-jumbo(read: the force).
 

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I vote fantasy to win, because science fiction had to deal with the limitations of their technology, battery/ammo limits, physics and other tangible issues. Magic doesn't have that problem. It's magic, it doesn't have to explain shit.
On the other hand, technology to it's utmost limit is indistinguishable from magic. Also, who's fantasy world versus who's sci fi? Jedi's v. Armies of Mordor, G.I. Joe v. Last Unicorn? Are they of comparable level? There would be alot of determining factors.