Have you by any chance heard Chelsea Grin and Job For A Cowboy? I think it would fit your taste, as deathcore have more emphasize on on over the top screaming.EcoEclipse said:
Poll: Screaming in music. Do you like it or not?
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Ugh I love screaming but BMTH are just awful, screaming lacks wow factor when you do it all the time to laughable lyricsJust Plain Lazy said:
Just so people can see what he meant to postDigi7 said:Screaming in music is a bit of a speciality and acquired taste, as I've found personally. I used to hate it. I found it obnoxious and unnecessary. But then it just grew on me, and now I absolutely FUCKING love it. It gets my blood pumping like nothing else.
I find it to be a pure and raw expression of emotion. It's like hearing the voice of your own subconscious, expressing your emotions in a base and visceral form. Screaming is a universal expression of feeling and one of the most psychologically affecting sounds.
This may just be because I'm a loose, angsty teenager with a liking for metalcore and the heavier stuff, but I genuinely think screaming has an important place in artistic expression.
What do you think? How do you feel about screaming? Do you think it has a place in music, or is it just noise? Leave your thoughts.
And I'll just leave some of my favourites here as examples
EDIT: Or maybe I'll just leave a bunch of white squares. Seriously, why the hell doesnt the Escapist have a code list anymore?
OP, quote me to see how it's done now.
And you think that screaming doesn't take lots and lots of training? I've been training for over a year around every day and I can barely make the right sound or give it any volume.evilthecat said:
There's only one scream I can get behind:
YYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!
Otherwise, no. Get out of my ears, please.
YYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!
Otherwise, no. Get out of my ears, please.
Yes!kman123 said:
OT: As stated in above quoted post, it depends on the band. Some bands sound like prepubescent kids whining over a microphone (Asking Alexandria, Coheed & Cambria, Bring Me the Horizon, etc.) , while others actually sound good (All That Remains, Killswitch Engage, August Burns Red, Bullet for my Valentine, etc.) It all depends on the band.
Not digging Chelsea Grin, but I've already got Job For A Cowboy in my collection. I guess a part of it is also that is has to be interesting, you know? Like WBTBWB from my earlier post. [They're one of my favorites.] I don't even know how they came up with (or managed to do) some of the noises they've made.Arkhangelsk said:
I only like it when it's done by someone who can sing AS WELL, the contrast makes the screaming all the more special, adds more variety to the tone of each song/album too.
Nick Oliveri's vocals on Songs for the deaf is a good example (though there were more than one vocalist on that album), and a lot of Pantera has a good mix too.
But seriously, fuck Bring Me The Horizon.
Nick Oliveri's vocals on Songs for the deaf is a good example (though there were more than one vocalist on that album), and a lot of Pantera has a good mix too.
But seriously, fuck Bring Me The Horizon.
Learning to scream is just not as difficult as building vocal range, or learning to hold a note outside of your vocal range.Arkhangelsk said:
I would never claim that screaming doesn't require practice, especially if you're doing so with a microphone and need to maintain a relatively consistent volume. Having been, to my embarassment, roped into doing interim vocals for a friend's metalcore band for a bit I had to learn it from scratch as well and it's given me a great appreciation for the skill of people who can do it well. It takes practice, sure, but it's just not as technical.
Maybe I'm romanticising it because I can't do it. I think to some people it comes a lot more naturally than others, and I don't think difficulty should necessarily be a mark of quality (otherwise we'd all be elitist 'twoo metal' douches) basically, I don't think it's the same thing. Doing one does not enable you to do the other.
Heck, I listen to VNV Nation despite the fact that Ronan Harris cannot sing, has no vocal range and is basically a chubby Irish guy talking into a microphone. I grew up on Marilyn Manson, who cannot sing for shit. I still count them among my favourite vocalists, because they have unique voices which work within the given mode of expression. That's all that really matters to me.
Fixed it for ya. Just quote me to see the codes if you haven't been told already. If you have I am sorry.Digi7 said:Screaming in music is a bit of a speciality and acquired taste, as I've found personally. I used to hate it. I found it obnoxious and unnecessary. But then it just grew on me, and now I absolutely FUCKING love it. It gets my blood pumping like nothing else.
I find it to be a pure and raw expression of emotion. It's like hearing the voice of your own subconscious, expressing your emotions in a base and visceral form. Screaming is a universal expression of feeling and one of the most psychologically affecting sounds.
This may just be because I'm a loose, angsty teenager with a liking for metalcore and the heavier stuff, but I genuinely think screaming has an important place in artistic expression.
What do you think? How do you feel about screaming? Do you think it has a place in music, or is it just noise? Leave your thoughts.
And I'll just leave some of my favourites here as examples
EDIT: Or maybe I'll just leave a bunch of white squares. Seriously, why the hell doesnt the Escapist have a code list anymore?
OT: If the whole song is screaming, then forget it. I like screaming very much. Take Rise Against Midnight Hands. The song is quite good, but not great. However it picks up a lot in the mid-end segment where they tone it down, relax and then scream in the most intense way ever.
The Last of The Believer have a song called Throwing Matches which does this even better. You have the lead singer screaming the lyrics while the guitar/backing vocal sings the same thing softly.
Thousand Foot Krutch got a whole album where this is done masterfully called Welcome To The Masquerade.
Best one is this.
For me, the metal scream is an instrument, but not one to be overused, and really shines when used sparingly.
For instance, Mike Patton voiced the Anger Sphere in Portal, and has done a few other pieces of growly, shouty voice artist work, yet can still pull this out of the bag..
then switch to this in a heartbeat...
Being a screamy metal vocalist is one thing, but having a range like Patton is being in another class entirely.
Something I love about him is that he doesn't just decide he's metal, he's equally at home teaming up with easy jazz performers or techno wizards as he is raging with a metal band or blending in with a rap crew.
For instance, Mike Patton voiced the Anger Sphere in Portal, and has done a few other pieces of growly, shouty voice artist work, yet can still pull this out of the bag..
then switch to this in a heartbeat...
Being a screamy metal vocalist is one thing, but having a range like Patton is being in another class entirely.
Something I love about him is that he doesn't just decide he's metal, he's equally at home teaming up with easy jazz performers or techno wizards as he is raging with a metal band or blending in with a rap crew.