Poll: Security Guards V.S. 12-year old punk

[Dinosaur_Face]

i think he did the right thing,it's so annoying when some kid goes and acts arrogant and that they can do anything without a consequence (did i spell that right?), they need to learn their place

 

[Akkiko]

Being an asshole isn't restricted to age. If that kid treats a security guard, a symbol of authority that way, let's take it a step further and wonder how he must treat his parents, teachers and fellow students. I'd say he's pretty damn lucky in this scenario and, if he's smart, he'll take the gentle lesson that was given to him gratefully.

Or should I point out that other video where the 12 year old was bullying an older kid and the guy picked him up and threw him down on the concrete? What he got here was a gentle slap on the hand, if he doesn't pick up on that, he's liable to get punched into a wall by someone far less nice.

 

[anthony87]

I'm sorry but last time I checked, 12 year old's aren't adults and treating them like adults is fucking stupid and borders on actual abuse.

And what if the kid is violent?... Like in this case?...

Where was the violence from the kid?

He was struggling and pushing against the security guard with his foot.

So? Respect authority and where is the parents? This bullshit knee jerk reaction to crime is why the UK is a wreck. Come down on kids early and they will think twice about committing further crimes.

....I think you may have quoted the wrong person dude.

I'm all for what the security guard did.

 

[AndyFromMonday]

I'm sorry but last time I checked, 12 year old's aren't adults and treating them like adults is fucking stupid and borders on actual abuse.

And what if the kid is violent?... Like in this case?...

He's 12. Think about that for a moment.

Getting taught to not be a prick is best taught at an early age.

If you actually believe violence is the proper tool for instilling certain values in children then congratulations, you're going to be an unfit parent.

 

[DarkRyter]

Well at least that kid didn't get raped with a wiimote.

 

[Berithil]

I think taking him down to the ground was the right move, hitting him with the asp was 1 step to far in my opinion. Of course I don't know what they're saying so I don't know the exact situation.

 

[anthony87]

I'm sorry but last time I checked, 12 year old's aren't adults and treating them like adults is fucking stupid and borders on actual abuse.

And what if the kid is violent?... Like in this case?...

He's 12. Think about that for a moment.

Getting taught to not be a prick is best taught at an early age.

If you actually believe violence is the proper tool for instilling certain values in children then congratulations, you're going to be an unfit parent.

And if you believe that the security guard should've just stood there, waggled his finger and said "Ah now, enough of that" then congratulations, your child is probably going to end up being a criminal.

 

[SidingWithTheEnemy]

I seriously don't know if the security guard has done the right thing.

The contract for the security guard should state how to behave in such situations. If his employers don't have thought up the situation and there is no "manual" how to behave when dealing with 12 year old pr*cks, tough luck for the employers, they should take the blame. Of course I always blame the parents as well, especially for bad parenting and being psychos but they probably had bad grandparents so this is quite pointless really.

Could you, Dear Shycte tell us what happened to that poor guardsmen?

Thanks!

 

[kinggamecat]

When the kid kicked the guard that at least here could cause the kid to be charged with assault, and I think what the guards did was acceptable, but using that stick thing to lash his ars maaaay have been a bit too rough, but I think the the kid deserved everything up to that point.

 

[tangoprime]

Kid better watch that crap before he gets a wiimote up the ass.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.316678-Utah-Man-Jailed-For-Alleged-Wiimote-Rape

 

[Shycte]

I seriously don't know if the security guard has done the right thing.

The contract for the security guard should state how to behave in such situations. If his employers don't have thought up the situation and there is no "manual" how to behave when dealing with 12 year old pr*cks, tough luck for the employers, they should take the blame. Of course I always blame the parents as well, especially for bad parenting and being psychos but they probably had bad grandparents so this is quite pointless really.

Could you, Dear Shycte tell us what happened to that poor guardsmen?

Thanks!

I made an edit at my OP, but I can tell you that while the police decided that he didn't do anything wrong, the company he worked for suspended him while they investigate the thing internally.

 

[kinggamecat]

Well at least that kid didn't get raped with a wiimote.

A bit too soon, but funny nevertheless, I tip my hat to you.

 

[kinggamecat]

I'm always for punk ass kids getting taught a lesson so good for you Mr. Security Guard.

If I ever create a country, beating 12-year old punks will become a national sport.

-stands up and applauds with the nation of paddleapunk as the anthem plays, then the d-bags are released into the arena where Chuck Norris, Charlie Sheen and Duke Nukem show up and the match begins. Then We all solute those brave men keeping blood sports ratings up and the number of tools down-

 

[AndyFromMonday]

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He's twelve, guys. TWELVE! Twelve. Years. Old. I get it, children are often annoying online and it's fun seeing the assholes who ruin your multiplayer gaming experience get a beating but that still doesn't change the fact that we're talking about a child here, not an adult.

You two keep talking about common sense and how at your age you understood bla and bla but did you really? I mean here you are, at an age when you're supposed to have "common sense", condoning violence against children and you have the audacity to claim you "understand" what common sense is? Really?

 

[Shycte]

I'm sorry but last time I checked, 12 year old's aren't adults and treating them like adults is fucking stupid and borders on actual abuse.

And what if the kid is violent?... Like in this case?...

He's 12. Think about that for a moment.

Getting taught to not be a prick is best taught at an early age.

If you actually believe violence is the proper tool for instilling certain values in children then congratulations, you're going to be an unfit parent.

Sweden was the first country in the world to ban corporal punishment in the home. It is never acceptable to beat a child instead of proper raising. But, if someone acts violent against a security guard, they have to act. Even if they are just 12-years old.

 

[Aprilgold]

No, the guard did not do the right thing. There was no reason to throw the kid down like that. Also was there no place they could've taken him, away from the public? Holding him there in the first place was a confrontation waiting to happen. Take him to the security office, or something and have his parent/guardian pick him up there.

From what I know of police business / security guard business, you must make sure the offender undestands their consequences then you can take them away, take them anywhere, primarily. The kid got what he wanted, a fight, which he lost, but its what he wanted, you don't piss off cops or security guards.

Being an asshole isn't restricted to age. If that kid treats a security guard, a symbol of authority that way, let's take it a step further and wonder how he must treat his parents, teachers and fellow students. I'd say he's pretty damn lucky in this scenario and, if he's smart, he'll take the gentle lesson that was given to him gratefully.

Or should I point out that other video where the 12 year old was bullying an older kid and the guy picked him up and threw him down on the concrete? What he got here was a gentle slap on the hand, if he doesn't pick up on that, he's liable to get punched into a wall by someone far less nice.

So a snot nosed little dick cheese got busted for something, resisted it, put up a pissy fit, got scared by a night stick being slapped to the ground, and then dragged away.

If you think this is abuse of power why not come to the USA and call one of our cops a pig. You have a 90% chance or better of that person putting you in a headlock, beating you senseless, tasing you, beating you some more, tasing you in the face, cuffing you, tasing you again, and then dragging you to rot in a cell.

Kids deserve no special treatment; while a twelve year old is not an adult they aren't children. They are not immune to their actions results and shouldn't be.

I have no tolerance for kids; just came back from my buddies comic shop and i got to witness him dealing with tow parents and their snot nosed kid as he tried to steal the warboss from his 40k display. Point is if a kid does somethign wrong they need to take responsibility for it. Not making them do so results in people like my sisters. If you get mad at someone for yelling at your child as they steal from them you do not deserve to be a parent. This kid may have just been harassing him but its still wrong.

Thats not the worst thing, I've seen kids steal things they KNEW they weren't supposed to steal, not only that, but seen them peddle.... Things. Seriously, kids should learn to not be dicks.

He's twelve, guys. TWELVE! Twelve. Years. Old. I get it, children are often annoying online and it's fun seeing the assholes who ruin your multiplayer gaming experience get a beating but that still doesn't change the fact that we're talking about a child here, not an adult.

You two keep talking about common sense and how at your age you understood bla and bla but did you really? I mean here you are, at an age when you're supposed to have "common sense", condoning violence against children and you have the audacity to claim you "understand" what common sense is? Really?

Then I have to deal with this, yet again. Listen, kids, if dicks, shouldn't be dicks, or pricks, or asses. 12 Year Olds are old enough to know the law, not fully, but basically, and how to get along, theres a difference between a 5 year old stealing something, and a 12 year old doing it, the 5 year old doesn't know any better, a 12 year old does. I don't want any of this "THINK OF THE CHILDREN!" or "OH, U JUZ MAD AT 12S ON COD, LOL!" on here either, its a bloody disgrace to gaming in generally, this topic and forum itself.

A 12 year old should be respecting their elders and ones that are in a position of authority, but many just think "They should bow to MY feet, because I'm better, because I'm younger" Nothing works like that. Going back to my original argument point, difference between a 5 year old stealing something, and a 12 year old doing it.

This has NOTHING to do with games in any way, therefore your very first move in your post is automatically disqualfied as a 'cop out' so you now have no basis to stand on. Kids at 12 should have a reasoning of common sense, which means they understand what is good to do, and what is bad, on the bad list is harrasing.

 

[Xaryn Mar]

Lets see:
Kid kicking the guard? Thats called attempt at self-defence.
Dragging feet? Normal thing to do if you are dragged against your will.

The guard drawing the baton: Way out of line and if the laws in Sweden are anywhere near those in Denmark then hitting the kid (no matter how hard) constitutes assault on a kid and that is illegal.
All a private guard is allowed to do is restrain a person. Not use force.

So no matter what the kid do the guards are way out of line. If they where threatened they should call the police.

 

[AndyFromMonday]

Sweden was the first country in the world to ban corporal punishment in the home. It is never acceptable to beat a child instead of proper raising. But, if someone acts violent against a security guard, they have to act.

I find it funny you're actually considering twelve year old's a threat to your physical well being.

 

[lacktheknack]

I'm sorry but last time I checked, 12 year old's aren't adults and treating them like adults is fucking stupid and borders on actual abuse.

I wasn't aware that "not abusing a security guard" was an adult concept.

I also wasn't aware that twelve year old kids were so fragile and breakable, what with them beating the shit out of each other on a daily basis.

I was most certainly unaware, as well, that twelve-year-olds are allowed to run around and flaunt societal norms/rules/laws and we're supposed to support that.

The kid was looking for trouble, and he got some. I don't see how there's an issue here.