Poll: Should a leader be feared or loved?
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Wheres the option for both?
I had an ex-marine leading my old guilds raids in WOW everyone loved him but they daren't do anything wrong out of a respectful fear of his quiet disdain.
He wasn't elected or anything to do it he just always took over and everyone did what he said. Like Commander Shepard, only an Orc. Some people just have the knack I think.
Everyone knew who the real guild leader was, I was just a figurehead.
I had an ex-marine leading my old guilds raids in WOW everyone loved him but they daren't do anything wrong out of a respectful fear of his quiet disdain.
He wasn't elected or anything to do it he just always took over and everyone did what he said. Like Commander Shepard, only an Orc. Some people just have the knack I think.
Everyone knew who the real guild leader was, I was just a figurehead.
jbchillin said:
A Leader should be deeply respected, but are we talking about an ideal leader, or today's leaders?
Both are utterly necessary. I didn't vote just because neither surpasses the other. You need a leader that everyone loves, but is scarey enough so that no one would even THINK to dare cross them.
Just think about it, have a leader that cares about the little man, keeps taxes reasonable and generally keeps his people happy. Then, someone tries to betray him, he beheads them. The people, who all love the leader, will not only approve, but would have most likely done far worse if they got a hold of him first, not to mention the message that sends about turning your back on your glorious master.
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Just think about it, have a leader that cares about the little man, keeps taxes reasonable and generally keeps his people happy. Then, someone tries to betray him, he beheads them. The people, who all love the leader, will not only approve, but would have most likely done far worse if they got a hold of him first, not to mention the message that sends about turning your back on your glorious master.
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In regards to The Prince, that was Machiavelli being extremely satyrical and sarcastic considering he was a champion for a republic, good read though.
I think loved is the best choice, fear can only go so far before the people start to think of revolt. At least with a loved ruler the people will fight more in favor for the ruler and will try their damnedest, but with a feared ruler the people will only fight because they will be afraid of failure and retribution from the feared leader.
I think loved is the best choice, fear can only go so far before the people start to think of revolt. At least with a loved ruler the people will fight more in favor for the ruler and will try their damnedest, but with a feared ruler the people will only fight because they will be afraid of failure and retribution from the feared leader.
Dude, pure genius.Terminate421 said:Let this do the work
Haha because we all know Michael Scott is the epitome of a great leader.
Machiavelli states that love is fickle and it is impossible to hold that love. Fear is the only consistent form that can be maintained. This does not mean hated however. A leader that is hated will instill rebellion and the government will not last.
Think of it this way, when you were children you may have loved your parents (or not)but there was usually a healthy dose of fear and intimidation that helps you remember to do what your suppose to. Parents use it and governments use it. Sorta like that.
Think of it this way, when you were children you may have loved your parents (or not)but there was usually a healthy dose of fear and intimidation that helps you remember to do what your suppose to. Parents use it and governments use it. Sorta like that.
Machiavelli argued in 'Prince' that it was better to be feared, because the price of fostering and maintaining love is too high and unsustainable. I think he makes an interesting argument, but I'm personally gonna try for both.
Basically I agree with Machiavelli. It is better to be feared than to be loved. If one is loved, there is still the chance they will turn on you if the going gets rough. If he is feared, they will not turn for fear of their life. People are inherently selfish, and they will do anything in order to survive, especially politicians. This includes betraying a leader you love in order to gain political power or to survive any sort of conflict or even keep up their ego.