Poll: Should alcohol advertisement be banned?

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godofallu

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Why not just censor everything? Oh because of the whole free speech thing...

Well they can censor cigarettes because of bad health, so why not alcohol? Probably because the majority of the public doesn't smoke, but the majority does drink. Politics is generally about pleasing the majority.
 

ChildishLegacy

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I think alcohol is only here still because its a part of our 'heritage'. In a world exactly the same as ours, but the consumption alcohol had never been part of any culture, and in this day and age you decided to try and market what is essentially a drink mixed with a poisonous substance, for no apparent benefit, it would never be made legal. Personally I think people's view on alcohol is that it isn't even a drug, and ads showing it in a positive light aren't the best of things, but I'm not sure whether banning ads would change anything, ads just promote certain brands of alcohol, if you're going to drink you're going to drink, I doubt an ad would make you take to it.
When tobacco ads were banned, it was of benefit to the tobacco companies as they no longer had to spend money competing with advertising which was essentially cancelling itself out, and smokers didn't need ads to make them want to buy it, they're addicts.
 

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It's fine to advertise it as long as it?s targeted at adults and within the bounds of reason. So there does need to be some regulation to enforce that.

Alcohol is enjoyed by the majority of people without any problems so I don't think it's unfair to portray that. Otherwise you'd have to ban almost every movie which involves young adults having fun.

And the greatest element in its favor is that it generally produces the most entertaining of advertisements. Since I'm going to have products forced down my throat anyway might as well keep the good stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFkepEu2e6w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P_API6N4oA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaJoYESZGnY

Also with great tunes.
 

aba1

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It'll happen eventually to be honest I think ciggarettes should be able to advertise its not like its any secret they are harmful to you infact its so inforced to children that there harmful id almost go as far as to say they are encouraging kids at this point via reverse psychology.

But on topic I think there is to much hate directed towards smoking people act like there poison, all they do is hurt everyone and nothing else but it takes years for smoking to take its toll and it serves as a relaxent lets people blow off steam.

If beer ads got canned I think it be silly there is a point in time where people need to take reasponsability for themselves and stop blaming other people or products when to much of somthing finally catches up to them, to much of anything will kill ya anything in moderation is fine (within a limit obv)
 

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Alcohol is not "as bad or worse than tobacco". In fact, in moderation it can actually be good for you. [http://survivingtheworld.net/Lesson756.jpg] And a while back, the oldest living man's secret was a glass of wine every day. Which is supposedly good for your heart. Alcohol is also not as addictive. If you drink casually or even to party, you won't necessarily get hooked. If you smoke casually, you probably will. So no, alcohol advertisements shouldn't be banned. We should only prevent the advertising of stuff that's likely to hook you. And as of present, tobacco is the only legal thing that can do that.
 

aba1

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Continuity said:
I think it really ought to be banned, after all it is proven to be quite bad for your health. We shouldn't be encouraging people to do things that are bad for their health.

player3141 said:
I see nothing wrong with tabacco or alcohol advertisements. I think both should be allowed to aired, despite both being able to kill you. It is the parents job to educate the child that alcohol in excess, can be deadly; and smoking causes lung cancer. If a parent can't do that, then it is up to the child to have a brain and listen to the tons of anti-tabacoo/alcohol advertisements that are everywhere.
The trouble with that is that it ignores the effect that advertising has, companies don't pour billions of $$$ into advertising for the hell of it. Advertising makes people consume more of your product, yes its the individual's responsibility to moderate their own intake but given that it is a proven fact that advertising increases consumption regardless, I think its right it ought to be moderated.

To put it another way, if a company was selling suicide kits and advertising them on TV, would that be a good thing? It would still be the individuals choice but you can bet there would be more suicides as a result.

So I guess the thing is that we are compulsive creatures, and advertising taps into that element of our psyche and creates an undue influence, where that involves something that does us harm we ought to be protected from it.
It is up to each and every one of us to let advertising work as long as your not a complete tool advertising is harmless and your smart enough to know just because a sign implies you should buy a product doesnt mean you should I see tampon comercials all the time doesnt mean I feel the need to buy them
 

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666Chaos said:
Last time I checked tobacco ads are not banned they are simply restriced to printed media such as magazines.

I also dont believe the part about not being able to mention the price since every single beer commercial talks about the price.
Yep I've seen my share of printed Ad's for cigarettes, banned was a poor choice of word to use.

as for the price point, there is no specific regulation against it from what I can tell however when advertising price of alcohol you come dangerously close to breaking the other regulation

(k) use imperative language to urge people to purchase or consume the product;

if you're telling people the price of your alcohol, you're more or less saying "buy our alcohol because it's inexpensive!"

as for every beer commercial talking about the price I gave you the benefit of the doubt and looked up a couple beer commercial's (Molson mostly) I still can't find a price but if you find one that talks price (and is Canadian) I would gladly admit I am wrong.
 

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Continuity said:
DYin01 said:
Some people in this thread made a very good point distincting tobacco from alcohol. Alcohol isn't harmful in small amounts. It's only bad for you if you overdo it, which is true for a lot of products.
Even very small amounts of alcohol on a regular basis have been shown in studies to increase your risk of cancer, so alcohol isn't as benign as you might think.
hahahahaha EVERYTHING gives you cancer to much sun gives you cancer electronics give you cancer all food and drink give you cancer the list goes on and onnnnnnnnnnnnn
 

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Limecake said:
666Chaos said:
Last time I checked tobacco ads are not banned they are simply restriced to printed media such as magazines.

I also dont believe the part about not being able to mention the price since every single beer commercial talks about the price.
Yep I've seen my share of printed Ad's for cigarettes, banned was a poor choice of word to use.

as for the price point, there is no specific regulation against it from what I can tell however when advertising price of alcohol you come dangerously close to breaking the other regulation

(k) use imperative language to urge people to purchase or consume the product;

if you're telling people the price of your alcohol, you're more or less saying "buy our alcohol because it's inexpensive!"

as for every beer commercial talking about the price I gave you the benefit of the doubt and looked up a couple beer commercial's (Molson mostly) I still can't find a price but if you find one that talks price (and is Canadian) I would gladly admit I am wrong.
what that 24 for 24 campian that happens every year or so pritty sure its bud light or canadian that does it
 

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Lilani said:
Plus, there is no equivalent to "secondhand smoke" with alcohol.
Second hand smoke doesn't instantly kill you. A drunk driver who runs you over or crashes into you, however...

Anywho...

I'm not really one for banning much of anything. I'd prefer education be made available to teach people how to make smarter choices. When I was in high school I was required to take a health class during my freshman year that, in my opinion, did a phenomenal job of objectively teaching the pros and cons of alcohol and the dangers of alcohol abuse. That said, however, I think the task of educating youth on things like alcohol first and foremost falls onto parents. It's parents' responsibility as parents to teach kids these things. If parents were actually competent at their responsibilities and more schools had health classes like mine, I honestly don't think this would be an issue at all in the United States.

So yeah, in short... don't ban the advertising. In fact, bring back cigarette advertising as well. Educate people better on these substances so they can make informed choices rather than using the government as a nanny.

And I say this as an individual who is married to a self-confessed alcoholic who hopes to eventually kick the addiction.
 

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VanTesla said:
In the U.S.A Tobacco advertising was banned (mostly all) on June 22, 2010 for being bad for the public. Alcohol in many ways is as bad or worse than tobaco, so why should it still be allowed in media? Alcohol comercials and advertisement send a negative message that supports bad choices and makes it look like it's cool to drink. So why is it ok to have this advertiement, but not be able to advertise tobaco?

How is advertising alcohol justified? I am not trying to be politicaly correct or trying to band alcohol, but end the advertisement of showing it in some sort of positive light. Is this wrong in thinking that it is better for the publics intrest? What are your thoughts on the subject?
*face palm* It's honestly quite hard to even reply to this. It's so stupid it speaks for itself. Riddle me this, what happened when the sale of alcohol was banned? It's a person's own responsibility to not fall into bad habits. And really, it's quite childish to think that there are evil people, leading their companies in a quest for money. Your post shows the fault in anti-alcohol education, "Alcohol in many ways is as bad or worse than tobaco". Like I said, it speaks for itself.
 

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666Chaos said:
Limecake said:
here in canada tobacco ad's are banned (just like the US) and Alcohol has very strict guidelines you must follow when advertising alcohol (this includes both brands of alcohol and places that serve alcohol.

-you cannot specifically mention price of drinks
"we're selling bud light at $5 a six-pack"
Last time I checked tobacco ads are not banned they are simply restriced to printed media such as magazines.

I also dont believe the part about not being able to mention the price since every single beer commercial talks about the price.

EvilRoy said:
FuktLogik said:
No, you're clearly trying to impose your personal beliefs on others. Calm the fuck down, it's only booze.

It's people like you who bring us closer and closer to total censorship in all forms of media.
To be honest I've always personally questioned the need for alcohol advertisements, at least here in Canada.
I know that in some other countries (United States for instance, I think) you can buy booze from alot of different places, like grocery stores or convenience stores, but here in Canada there is only one place you can get liquor: the liquor store.
Yep last time I was in the States I picked up my beer at a wal-mart, figured if im buying shitty beer I might as well do it at a shitty store.

I am curious as to which province you live in. I know in ontario its restricted to the beer store and the lcbo, which in rural areas can actually be part of your avondale. I know the sale of it is regulated by the province so it changes depending on which one you are in. In BC there is liquor stores everywhere mostly grab and gos with very few actual beer store style ones. I cant really remember what it is like out east since I havnt been there since I was 16.
I live in Alberta, and our setup sounds similar to ontario's, but its not restricted to any particular outlet, any business can run one but you cannot consolidate with a convenience store or a grocers.
For instance, I usually buy at the superstore liquor store, just across from the regular superstore and beside the pumps. There is also the liquor barn, the liquorstore and on and on for places to choose from, but it is pretty much always the same deal. One store consolidates every kind of liquor, it may or may not have cold beer, but it can have nothing else in it. I actually don't think they are even allowed to stock snacks.
 

KorLeonis

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Alcohol is a wonderful thing. Ads showing it in a positive light are merely the truth. Therefore, they are fine as they are.