Poll: Should becoming a cyborg be legal?
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Yes, you are infringing on my personal freedoms to deny me the opportunity to become a cyborg in this situation. And we all know cyborgs are awesome, so that'd be an even further insult to deny one such privilege!
EMP would fcuk a cyborg up royally though. And you can get semi-cyborg things like robotic limbs and stuff. And REX bionics was demonstrating a neat exosuit this year.
Yes, everyone should be able to do with their own body whatever they want.
I would change my body to a completely robotic one.
I would change my body to a completely robotic one.
Every technology is really expensive when it's just new.Mavinchious Maximus said:
Well, almost unstoppable. Hackers could be a problem...Mavinchious Maximus said:
This.PrinceOfShapeir said:
By the time our cybernetics are so good that having them will make or break someones life, we'll already have moved beyond having "rich" people in the way you're thinking about it, with advanced nanotechnology and so on.
Well considering that there are cyborgs among us now...
Yes I think being a cyborg should be legal.
I mean, all your cons are moot.
"only rich people could get the enhancements"
Oh no! Only rich people would get it? This has never happened before in all of history! When has there ever been a time where rich people could get things that others couldn't afford?
"Governments would be able to make a army of super soldiers.An army of unstoppable soldiers unable to think for themselves. If that happens we would see the worst war the world could possibly imagine."
We have bombs capable of taking out most of a city with a single explosion and send tons of radioactive material into the atmosphere causing thousands of people to have a greater chance of bodily malfunctions like cancer even a decade after the bomb has been detonated. And we have enough of these bombs to wipe out all life on earth several times over. I don't think we should be worrying if our soldiers get enhancements that make them jump higher.
Yes I think being a cyborg should be legal.
I mean, all your cons are moot.
"only rich people could get the enhancements"
Oh no! Only rich people would get it? This has never happened before in all of history! When has there ever been a time where rich people could get things that others couldn't afford?
"Governments would be able to make a army of super soldiers.An army of unstoppable soldiers unable to think for themselves. If that happens we would see the worst war the world could possibly imagine."
We have bombs capable of taking out most of a city with a single explosion and send tons of radioactive material into the atmosphere causing thousands of people to have a greater chance of bodily malfunctions like cancer even a decade after the bomb has been detonated. And we have enough of these bombs to wipe out all life on earth several times over. I don't think we should be worrying if our soldiers get enhancements that make them jump higher.
Yeah, for example that fun activity you call death would be out of the question.Phishfood said:
I can't wait for the time I can chop off those useless organic limbs and get myself an upgrade.
I see what you did thereCM156 said:
Edit: I forgot an OT
Well It should be legal sure. BUt compulsory NO. If legal it could not be like SUPER STRENGTH. But be things like THOSE AWESOME WINGS THAT LET ME FLY.
Or something that would help you with your job. Like say a storage spot for a rope if your climbing alot. Or maybe ammuntion storage if your military.
But most certainly NOT weapons!!
It is a little ridiculous to think that rich people would voluntarily remove their working limbs to replace them with robotic limbs. Also a soldier with robotic limbs would not be able to preform delicate tasks as there would be no nerves in the limbs and they would not have as much control as a natural limb. So right now it would be incredibly stupid to become a cyborg.
Now we could assume that technology could become advanced enough to integrate cybernetic enhancements into tissues to retain muscle control and nerve sensitivity. However natural systems are generally much more efficient than artificial ones. On a soldier this would be a major issue as even if they were able to carry more weight and gear, they would also need to carry more supplies to power their cybernetic enhancements. It seems unlikely that it would be worth it based on the costs of maintenance and the cost to install the cybernetics.
So i would say that unless they were being used for helping people with handicaps the costs and disadvantages would be prohibitive enough to prevent the wealthy and armies from using them.
Now we could assume that technology could become advanced enough to integrate cybernetic enhancements into tissues to retain muscle control and nerve sensitivity. However natural systems are generally much more efficient than artificial ones. On a soldier this would be a major issue as even if they were able to carry more weight and gear, they would also need to carry more supplies to power their cybernetic enhancements. It seems unlikely that it would be worth it based on the costs of maintenance and the cost to install the cybernetics.
So i would say that unless they were being used for helping people with handicaps the costs and disadvantages would be prohibitive enough to prevent the wealthy and armies from using them.
It's not illegal to do non cybernetic body mods, so why not? Plus even if some countries owuld eventually ban it there would be plenty of opportunities around the world, just like with every other aspect (abortion, euthanasia, etc.)Mavinchious Maximus said:
I don't really see how in terms of "Golden Age" it would change anything, it's all in the works, on the most basic levels currently, but yeah, we are getting there. Nano-bots used as healing solution are probably bit further away, but basic implants that interact with brain are possibility in near future. [/quote]
Like most of the other things that are expensive. That's the benefit of being rich. Down the line, as the technology improves you can lower manufacturing and development costs so they would become affordable.
Why? I mean, are we speaking about cyborgs as in augmented humans or cyborgs as in bio-robots? If augmented then why would they be not able to think for themselves? Due to implants? Why would any country allow for it ? Every "pro-freedom" organization in the world would protest against it. How many people would actually be willing to join military if that would actually become true? We would have to drop the democracy and turn into militaristic states/totalitarian countries for it to be actual threat.
Contrary to popular belief there is plenty of safe mechanisms in modern societies that would prevent military abuse of such implants. That's why we oppose using nuclear weapons, napalm and so on.
I believe so. If you've lost your eye, then yeah. If you lost your leg, shoot. But just because you think it might be cool and because you have the capital to do it? Hardly. Unless you can express in some way a necessity for replacing flesh with steel and circuitry there's very little reason why this technology should be sowidespread.
Flipside however, more customers means greater market, greater market means more competition, more competition means better prices for people who might need the technology.
Of course, possibly the prime situation should be to only sell it to those that have medical approval that the technology will improve their quality of life and that the individual is mroe than capable in handling the responsibilities that come with replacing flesh with machinery.
Flipside however, more customers means greater market, greater market means more competition, more competition means better prices for people who might need the technology.
Of course, possibly the prime situation should be to only sell it to those that have medical approval that the technology will improve their quality of life and that the individual is mroe than capable in handling the responsibilities that come with replacing flesh with machinery.
My idea of cyborgs and cybernetic enhancements stem from Ghost in the Shell.
They are less "your body is now a machine and you can do crazy stuff like chop a car in half with your arm mounted chainsaw" and more "you can access the net from anywhere with the computer in your brain".
While there would certainly be benefits like enhanced physical traits (running, jumping, lifting, etc.) the draw backs would be that you might require alot of maintenance and/or your body would be vulnerable to technological bugs rather than organic ones.
All that aside, I can't wait till I can swap out my failing body parts for mechanical ones.
They are less "your body is now a machine and you can do crazy stuff like chop a car in half with your arm mounted chainsaw" and more "you can access the net from anywhere with the computer in your brain".
While there would certainly be benefits like enhanced physical traits (running, jumping, lifting, etc.) the draw backs would be that you might require alot of maintenance and/or your body would be vulnerable to technological bugs rather than organic ones.
All that aside, I can't wait till I can swap out my failing body parts for mechanical ones.
I haven't actually seen Ghost in the Shell so I might have to watch it later. But I wasnt talking about things todays robots can handle replacing organs and have the rest working without its help. the robotics im referring to would be the only way to save your life after a horrible accident (darth vader comes to mind).