Poll: Should dueling be legal?

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Kortney

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Nimbus said:
Yup. What two consenting people do is none of the government's business.
What about the huge strain on emergency services, family and resources?

Do you have any idea how much cost and effort is involved in treating just one person?
 

Dr Snakeman

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liquidangry said:
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liquidangry said:
Drunk guy: Hey there pretty girl
Me: hey, thats my girlfriend stop flirting with her
Drunk guy: fuck off *****
Me: dude, we've been dating for 5 years... go away. Shes with me
Drunk guy: I'll do what i fucking want to!
Me: ???? You can't just do anything you want.
Drunk guy: hell yes i can. *pushes*
Me: WTF!? get lost
Drunk guy: I challenge you to a duel
Me: .... (Thinking to self) FUCK... *looks at girlfriend* FUCK.... ok, meet me outside.


NO. ABSOLUTELY NO. I do not feel like getting into a fight to the death with every drunken jackass who hits on my girlfriend. I've come to blows or nearly come to blows often enough with people. I really don't want it to be for my life the next time it happens. NO. It was a bad idea before and it's a bad idea now.

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SirBryghtside said:
More people voted yes than no?

I... I...

What?
Learn to say no, perhaps?

I am wholeheartedly in favour of duels, since both parties would have to agree, and I am a strong proponent of personal liberties. I think that if two people want to fight each other, either till death or submission, that should be allowed.
You honestly believe it would end with me saying no? That's...just...retarded and naive. Not fighting him makes me lose face both with him, the people and around me, and most importantly with her. That's the whole point of dueling. Loss of face or the fact that they won't listen to words. Fights to the death aren't some sort of recreational activity. Nobody does them because they WANT to. They do them because they feel that superior (as in the case of the drunk) or because they're forced into it (me). I say no, he just keeps hitting on her. You obviously have never had a girlfriend. Just let him hit on her and make her uncomfortable as shit and see if you get laid that night. No, she'll be pissed at you. My original point stands. Come back with a better thought out argument than say no. LOL...
Or you could just say no, then knock his ass out. Or just leave.

If duels were legal, they would be an absolutely last resort, and you would really only duel those who you felt really deserved it. In your "drunk guy" scenario, there would be no need to agree to the duel if other forms of conflict resolution would work just as well.

Basically, it would make no sense to actually accept every challenge that came along. Some jackass hitting on your woman wouldn't be worth killing, so you can just dismiss him like you normally would.
 

willsham45

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Both sides have to agree to it and it can be done in many ways, guns, swords hell i am sure slaps and rock paper scissors (lizard and spok if you want to use those rules) if you really wanted to. And nether side has to do it they just forefit and it does not even have to involve murder, first blood to the torso, first person on the floor, first person to get hit.

It would make a nice alternative to some of the simpler court battles, murder and theft would have to be done the old fashioned way but land disputes and the like would be well solved the older fashioned way in the form of a duel, hell it would make PE classes in school more important.

But then again big companies that are prone to getting these sorts of complaints will start hiring specialist duellers to win the fights...then maybe tournaments will start to help find the best fighters.
 

ranyilliams

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honestly think that if both parties consent, yep it should be 100% legal. If someone is stupid enough to agree to do this type of thing. By all means, LET THEM DO IT.
 

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I could get behind sanctioned fisticuffs for dueling, but lack of single shot pistols would make pistol duels a little difficult to contain, and even then, that one bullet has to go somewhere if you miss. Swords I'm a bit more lenient about, but really, any fight that requires a duel to settle can be done with fists.
 

AstylahAthrys

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I would support it 100% if people still had honor and there was some sort of strict legal standards for it. I don't think it would be feasible in today's society, though, seeing as the class system is muddled and society is just totally different.

Also, technically, non-lethal duels are legal already, right? I mean, if two people want to sort out an argument with wooden swords, paintball guns or toy lightsabers you can do that already.
 

Zinaxos

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Yes and No. Yes because I'd duel everyone I know and No because everyone I know would be dead.
 

Volkov

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no. strength/fencing/shooting ability is NOT, never as been, and never will be, a virtue. and i don't think it's possible to legalize dueling without implying that strength/fencing/shooting ability are, in fact, a virtue.

a handful of more delicate legal arguments could also be raised, probably. euthanasia? suicide? burden on medical insurance companies if the loser survives? is it consider murder if one cheated? it's an enormous and completely unnecessary can of worms, because again - being stronger does NOT make you right, and the only purpose of duels was, in fact, to determine who is more honorable/right, while it really only determined who is stronger.
 

liquidangry

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Dr Snakeman said:
Or you could just say no, then knock his ass out. Or just leave.

If duels were legal, they would be an absolutely last resort, and you would really only duel those who you felt really deserved it. In your "drunk guy" scenario, there would be no need to agree to the duel if other forms of conflict resolution would work just as well.

Basically, it would make no sense to actually accept every challenge that came along. Some jackass hitting on your woman wouldn't be worth killing, so you can just dismiss him like you normally would.
So I can't go where I want to go because someone is going to be a dick to me and I should just take it? Also, hitting him outside of a duel is illegal. That's not an option. Remember, we're talking about legal dueling here. People seem to think when you knock someone out they're out for hours. Usually it's only a couple of minutes, just an fyi. What do I do when he wakes up? What if he came with friends and they were just waiting at their own table. I can't leave, what if there were cameras. Now I'm wanted for assault and fleeing the scene of a crime. What if he follows us outside? Again, my original point still stands. Sometimes people don't leave you a way out. On top of this since he challenged me to a duel he's probably armed.

When I was in college there was a fight EVERY night without fail. I mean EVERY night over a girl or something else. (i wasn't involved in any luckily mostly because i am a pus) I was there for some of the starts and a good 80-90% of the time, one of the combatants wasn't at fault an really should beat that guy up or was stopping someone from being molested. People would get sent to the hospital, beaten when they were already down etc. I can just imagine a scene where dueling was legal; a brawl would see their friends separating them and then them yelling that they wanted to duel to settle it. It's just a bad idea. A really bad idea.
 
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NytFantom said:
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Dueling would imply we still had some code of honor.
Couldn't have said it better. In olden times, people dueled to protect their honor... seeing as a good majority of people are caniving bastards, it wouldn't serve the purpose to well.

Besides, I don't think too many people have proper training in the use of either of those. Swordsmanship and "quick draw" like gun use aren't as popular amongst said majority either. Now amongst the group of people who do enjoy learning and using such skills, they probably might not agree to dying either. Although that's why the sword users use dulled weapons, wooden weapons, or a weapon that can't cut. As for guns... dud bullets? Probably would still hurt.

Unless of course you agree to a Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel... I'm up for that :D
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somonels

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Yes. It worked adequately for quite some, time despite having some flaws, but it is no worse than the current legal system — which is even more in favor of the upper classes.
 

Geo Da Sponge

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Sure it should legal. By which I mean only unconventional dueling should be legal.

Person A: How dare you call my mother a whore, you low life scum!
Person B: How dare you call me low life scum, you son-of-a-whore!
Person A: Right! Good sir, I challenge you to a duel!
*whips out a DS, slaps Person B with it*
Person A: Choose your Pokemon!
Person B: I see! I accept your challenge! We duel at dawn!
 

GLo Jones

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I think that's a great idea! It'd definitely help filter out the idiots from society if they could just merrily go at each other like that, hell, it might even make for some good entertainment.