i am pretty sure new vegas was developed by obsidian, but published by bethesda. sort of the way bioware made mass effect 2, but ea published it. the buggy nature of new vegas seems to have been obsidian's fault.Fusioncode9 said:After the atrocity that was Fallout New Vegas, I'm never buying a Bethesda game at launch again. I'll wait a month or two and the purchase it, since by then all the game breaking bugs should be gone.
Bethesda preformed the QA for New Vegas, meaning they tested it. So they are more than responsible for the bugs in the game. Plus, giving a developer like Obsidian an engine like Gamebryo is a majorly stupid idea to begin with, but Bethesda test it? That's just the perfect storm for a buggy mess.jeremysaint said:i am pretty sure new vegas was developed by obsidian, but published by bethesda. sort of the way bioware made mass effect 2, but ea published it. the buggy nature of new vegas seems to have been obsidian's fault.Fusioncode9 said:After the atrocity that was Fallout New Vegas, I'm never buying a Bethesda game at launch again. I'll wait a month or two and the purchase it, since by then all the game breaking bugs should be gone.
Yeah, just like I'm assuming the sun will rise tomorrow, lol.NickCaligo42 said:Assuming it's ever game of the year.
I actually enjoyed the leveling system. I found it more realistic. Compare it to fallout 3 . . why does shooting aliens in the head with a disintegration rifle give me skill in picking locks that are found nowhere on the ship? I can never pick a lock or never pick up an energy weapon and still be great at both.jeremysaint said:i am pretty sure new vegas was developed by obsidian, but published by bethesda. sort of the way bioware made mass effect 2, but ea published it. the buggy nature of new vegas seems to have been obsidian's fault.Fusioncode9 said:After the atrocity that was Fallout New Vegas, I'm never buying a Bethesda game at launch again. I'll wait a month or two and the purchase it, since by then all the game breaking bugs should be gone.
as for skyrim, i am so torn about that game.
i dont like oblivion. it has a broken, utterly aweful levelling system. painfully boring slow and graphically unimpressive combat (i am 33 years old and have already played hexen once, i dont want to do it again!), and down right repuslive graphics a lot of the time. i have been playing through it for the first time recently, and have put a couple dozen hours into it off and on so far. there is a lot of recommend it, but that completely broken, shockingly aweful levelling system just sucks all the life out of it. i can not emphasize enough how mind bogglingly aweful that system is.
i like open world adventure games. i direct my gaze to my games' shelves and see things like fallout 3, new vegas, red dead redemption, borderlands, deus ex (kind of open world), farcry 2, dead rising (not actually a good game, too many broken design issues), dead rising 2 (cant seem to get into it though), GTA4, etc, etc, etc... is skyrim going to top the ones in that list that are good? would i be better served just replaying one of the other ones i like?
ps. seriously, how can anyone say oblivion was good when it had that levelling system!
>implying game of the year means anything. There's GOTY boxes for all sorts of shit.OhJohnNo said:...But what if it isn't the GotY?
actually it is a terrible idea to pick skills you will use outside of a controlled circumstance as your main skills, as per the efficient levelling section of the oblivion wiki. in fact the game seriously punishes you for doing it. either way, i am pleased that you enjoy oblivion, even if i have a hard time getting past it's faults.honestdiscussioner said:I actually enjoyed the leveling system. I found it more realistic. Compare it to fallout 3 . . why does shooting aliens in the head with a disintegration rifle give me skill in picking locks that are found nowhere on the ship? I can never pick a lock or never pick up an energy weapon and still be great at both.jeremysaint said:i am pretty sure new vegas was developed by obsidian, but published by bethesda. sort of the way bioware made mass effect 2, but ea published it. the buggy nature of new vegas seems to have been obsidian's fault.Fusioncode9 said:After the atrocity that was Fallout New Vegas, I'm never buying a Bethesda game at launch again. I'll wait a month or two and the purchase it, since by then all the game breaking bugs should be gone.
as for skyrim, i am so torn about that game.
i dont like oblivion. it has a broken, utterly aweful levelling system. painfully boring slow and graphically unimpressive combat (i am 33 years old and have already played hexen once, i dont want to do it again!), and down right repuslive graphics a lot of the time. i have been playing through it for the first time recently, and have put a couple dozen hours into it off and on so far. there is a lot of recommend it, but that completely broken, shockingly aweful levelling system just sucks all the life out of it. i can not emphasize enough how mind bogglingly aweful that system is.
i like open world adventure games. i direct my gaze to my games' shelves and see things like fallout 3, new vegas, red dead redemption, borderlands, deus ex (kind of open world), farcry 2, dead rising (not actually a good game, too many broken design issues), dead rising 2 (cant seem to get into it though), GTA4, etc, etc, etc... is skyrim going to top the ones in that list that are good? would i be better served just replaying one of the other ones i like?
ps. seriously, how can anyone say oblivion was good when it had that levelling system!
I'm guessing you picked crappy main attributes. I was lucky that I only pick one or two crappy attributes: speechcraft is utterly useless once you're able to cast charm spells. Next time pick blade, whatever type of armor you plan on using, athletics, conjuration (especially if you're a breton like I was) and maybe armorer or destruction. Things you know you'll use a lot. Oh and Block if you use a shield and block a lot. Just make sure you pick the ones you use the most often and you'll be fine.
It's a year of stiff competition.honestdiscussioner said:Yeah, just like I'm assuming the sun will rise tomorrow, lol.NickCaligo42 said:Assuming it's ever game of the year.
Wait, which skills are you talking about? The only one I know I regret picking was speechcraft, since I never needed to use it. Ones like blade, and destruction, and conjuration, ones I used all the time, really helped me out a lot. Same with heavy armor. So yeah, which one of my recommended skills would you say is bad, and how am I penalized?jeremysaint said:actually it is a terrible idea to pick skills you will use outside of a controlled circumstance as your main skills, as per the efficient levelling section of the oblivion wiki. in fact the game seriously punishes you for doing it. either way, i am pleased that you enjoy oblivion, even if i have a hard time getting past it's faults.honestdiscussioner said:I actually enjoyed the leveling system. I found it more realistic. Compare it to fallout 3 . . why does shooting aliens in the head with a disintegration rifle give me skill in picking locks that are found nowhere on the ship? I can never pick a lock or never pick up an energy weapon and still be great at both.jeremysaint said:i am pretty sure new vegas was developed by obsidian, but published by bethesda. sort of the way bioware made mass effect 2, but ea published it. the buggy nature of new vegas seems to have been obsidian's fault.Fusioncode9 said:After the atrocity that was Fallout New Vegas, I'm never buying a Bethesda game at launch again. I'll wait a month or two and the purchase it, since by then all the game breaking bugs should be gone.
as for skyrim, i am so torn about that game.
i dont like oblivion. it has a broken, utterly aweful levelling system. painfully boring slow and graphically unimpressive combat (i am 33 years old and have already played hexen once, i dont want to do it again!), and down right repuslive graphics a lot of the time. i have been playing through it for the first time recently, and have put a couple dozen hours into it off and on so far. there is a lot of recommend it, but that completely broken, shockingly aweful levelling system just sucks all the life out of it. i can not emphasize enough how mind bogglingly aweful that system is.
i like open world adventure games. i direct my gaze to my games' shelves and see things like fallout 3, new vegas, red dead redemption, borderlands, deus ex (kind of open world), farcry 2, dead rising (not actually a good game, too many broken design issues), dead rising 2 (cant seem to get into it though), GTA4, etc, etc, etc... is skyrim going to top the ones in that list that are good? would i be better served just replaying one of the other ones i like?
ps. seriously, how can anyone say oblivion was good when it had that levelling system!
I'm guessing you picked crappy main attributes. I was lucky that I only pick one or two crappy attributes: speechcraft is utterly useless once you're able to cast charm spells. Next time pick blade, whatever type of armor you plan on using, athletics, conjuration (especially if you're a breton like I was) and maybe armorer or destruction. Things you know you'll use a lot. Oh and Block if you use a shield and block a lot. Just make sure you pick the ones you use the most often and you'll be fine.