Get rid of humanity and replace it with what? Trees? Flowers? What's the point of existence without sentient civilization?zedel said:The audacity of this train of thought that humanity is the focal point of existence is the reason why some would elect to "cull" the human species. Honestly, it'd be best if humanity as a whole was extinguished, but striving towards such a goal would prove futile and counterproductive to my own existence. I lack an answer to solve the problem that is humanity, but it certainly is troubling. I would prefer if you would not add to my dismay by making such dismal statements.Valkyrie101 said:Human wellbeing > planet's wellbeing.
The planet is, ultimately, irrelevant. Humanity is the only thing that matters, Earth is just a temporary home base for us. You call us disgusting for destroying the environment, but what's the point of the environment without us?
I have to agree with you there, I don't think murder is right, especially just because people have unwanted traits or cos there are too many in one place. Yahtzee best explains this in his Black Ops reviewMiles000 said:I actually agree with you there. At least it's 'justified' as opposed to just say nuking a densely populated country.SonofaJohannes said:World War 3 is the answer to that problem.
If we were aliens that looked on humans like animals? sure. They'd kill us all, take our resources and fly away back out into space looking for the next planet to mug. But humans culling other humans? Who the fuck gave them the right to decide that someone else should die? Just because their country has fewer people? what sort of fucking sense does that make.Longshot said:However, some countries have overpopulation problems. It's not that I'd ever consider culling, but let's say you and I were entities entirely detached form the human race, with no emotional ties to humans greater than what we feel to elephants or gophers: Wouldn't we think some places, the human race needed culling?chiefohara said:As for humans... well, as obstinate as people can sometimes be, you can still reason with them. You can't reason with an entire species of animal.
It's point is to foster life, and we're not the only species appreciative of the lives we're given. There are millions of species on the planet, and we're ruining it for all of themValkyrie101 said:Human wellbeing > planet's wellbeing.
The planet is, ultimately, irrelevant. Humanity is the only thing that matters, Earth is just a temporary home base for us. You call us disgusting for destroying the environment, but what's the point of the environment without us?
And the whole disgusting cycle starts all over again. It's not enough for you that we're already destroying our native planet?Admiral Stukov said:Colonize other planetary bodies. Problem solved.
Define 'destruction'.Murray Whitwell said:In all that time, we are the only species to be aiding in the planets destruction.
Eh, if it wasn't for plants, we'd not have accumulated large amounts of oxygen in the atmosphere. Which gave rise to animals to eat the plants. Yeah, that's what you get for fucking up the atmosphere with your O2 emissions, stupid plants.GLo Jones said:Nothing is being lost, simply being changed. Every animal has an effect on it's environment, we're simply the most influential. I'm pretty sure that if lions could eat the o-zone at the expense of our atmosphere, they wouldn't give a damn about anyone else.
It isn't, actually. The Earth won't actually be engulfed, though the surface isn't going to be much fun for most forms of life. In any case, if we are talking about massive amounts of time, nothing lives past (or even up to, really) heat death.Valkyrie101 said:Also, interesting fact: Earth is doomed. It will take a few billion years, but sooner or later the Sun is going to blow up and eat this planet. The only hope for life, long term, is humanity.
It also won't matter so much for the people on Earth at the time. It's unlikely that everyone migrates offworld, there will be people on the Earth stuck with the same problems, even if people are living elsewhere.Tomo Stryker said:Neither am I, I'm sure there are other planets out there that are ripe to be colonized. I guess from your standpoint it makes sense, but why should you or I care? We will be long dead before that even occurs.