Poll: Should our species be exempt from culling?

[Cowabungaa]

Culling? You mean waging war? We do a pretty good job at culling ourselves really.

Human wellbeing > planet's wellbeing.

The planet is, ultimately, irrelevant. Humanity is the only thing that matters, Earth is just a temporary home base for us. You call us disgusting for destroying the environment, but what's the point of the environment without us?

Hah, oh funny human arrogance. Fact is, we'll have destroyed ourself long before we can do something really serious to this planet. In it's early history it has, probably, collided with a cellestial body comparable in size to Mars, and look at where we are now. Don't get anything fanciful in your head. The sooner we as a species, especially the 'developed' parts, realise that, the sooner we'll get our shit together and stop destroying ourselves. We matter just as little as everything else.

 

[wiggler]

Interesting statements, care to show me your evidence for them?

Also, WTF? I'm not sure its possible to get shot without noticing, and i'm also not sure that it's possible to get shot without it causing some form of lasting damage at best, and a slow agonising death at worst.

and if that's really the worst that can possibly happen to them, its still pretty bad.

There has never been an instance of a deer passing the rogue test, look wherever you like.You simply cannot argue they are self aware, they show absolutley zero signs of higher inetellegence.

And yes, if you shoot a deer effectivley it dies instantly and is unaware it's been shot. The only problems arise when your aim is crummy and you dont take it out in one clean shot. If you mean animals getting wounded, thats bad of course, but the aim of culling animals is to kill, not to wound.

Hah, oh funny human arrogance.

You're a human too, dumbass. There's nothing more arrogant than acting like you're some magical, special exception to the rule. Quit being so haughty and get off your high horse.

 

[Valkyrie101]

Oh God, tell me you didn't just compare trees to Jews, or civilization to the Holocaust.

I'm not going to bother continuing this discussion, because you're starting to give the impression of being a tiny little bit sociopathic not to mention unhinged species-traitor.

Trees? No, your attitude to Hitlers? That's better.

And oh noes, I'm a traitor to my own species now? Are you trying to make an argument or kill me with humor, I'm now quite unsure.

But you are right, there is no point in continuing this, it is a waste of time.
Anyone who can think logically can see all the holes in your statements clear as day anyway. =3

EDIT: Have fun with the whole 'Master Race' mindset, I'm sure you can tell us all about it one day?

I suggest you seek psychiatric help. When you start hating your own species, there's something fundamentally wrong. (Incidentally, wishing death and destruction upon your own species is treason.)

Still on about that? Seriously? Is that all you have? Really?

Lets get into the grit of things shall we.

Firstly, if I am not mistaken, wishing death upon any members of your own race being treason is utter bullshit. I believe it was covered a while ago in England of all places, someone could legally shout in public "In my opinion, X member of the Royal Family should be shot". Such a pity I cannot remember the the references, cookies for anyone who finds it though.

Secondly Hating your own species is so common its not even funny. Do you not know of war? Racism? Or are you a complete shut in?

Thirdly, you are a prime example of why I can sometimes despise my own species, good job there.

There's a difference between hating certain members of ones own species, and hating every single one. Hating the species itself on principle.

So all in all, it is becoming more and more obvious, you are either a bubble-world shut-in, mentally deficient, or just full of bullshit.

I swear... I would not be surprised if you were a member of WBC or something... *Shudder*

No, I'm human, and I have a vested interest in the survival of my species and the propagation of intelligent life. Sound reasonable? Of course it does, and 99.999% of the world's population agree. I don't usually resort to ad hominem or insults where possible, but you are a sad, pathetic, psychotic, suicidal and genocidal freak who was probably bullied at school, and carried over that hatred of humanity into his or her later life. Maybe you love animals so much because they offer unconditional affection, because they won't call you out on anything? I'm blocking the rest of your posts, because this failure of natural selection is distressing.

[I must not troll the retard, I must not troll the retard, I must not troll the retard. Gnnnnn...]
*Clap clap clap clap*
"I don't resort to..." You aren't serious... Wait, you are... That's all your posts have been since we started. Again, you are full of bullshit.
You seem to really enjoy taking liberties with what is being said and running it through your own rose colored fantasy, I do suggest you seek help for that, really.
You also seem to be really projecting there, again, my advice would be professional help.
You also do not read what people say and seem to enjoy twisting everything into your own deformed fantasy world. Seek help.

I guess I must thank you, you have single-handedly demonstrated to the rest of the forum how full of bullshit you really are.

Not just my fantasy world, mate. It's everyone else's too.

("everyone" here defined as everyone who wants to live, which is nearly everyone)

Culling? You mean waging war? We do a pretty good job at culling ourselves really.

Human wellbeing > planet's wellbeing.

The planet is, ultimately, irrelevant. Humanity is the only thing that matters, Earth is just a temporary home base for us. You call us disgusting for destroying the environment, but what's the point of the environment without us?

Hah, oh funny human arrogance. Fact is, we'll have destroyed ourself long before we can do something really serious to this planet. In it's early history it has, probably, collided with a cellestial body comparable in size to Mars, and look at where we are now. Don't get anything fanciful in your head. The sooner we as a species, especially the 'developed' parts, realise that, the sooner we'll get our shit together and stop destroying ourselves. We matter just as little as everything else.

On a cosmic scale, yes, we're irrelevant. On a cosmic scale, everything is irrelevant.

But from a human perspective, we matter a lot. And since we are humans...

 

[punkrocker27]

Human wellbeing > planet's wellbeing.

The planet is, ultimately, irrelevant. Humanity is the only thing that matters, Earth is just a temporary home base for us. You call us disgusting for destroying the environment, but what's the point of the environment without us?

This for honest truth. I'd be happier knowing my children will never get to see what a real cloud looks like rather than them never having existed.

 

[O maestre]

Human wellbeing > planet's wellbeing.

The planet is, ultimately, irrelevant. Humanity is the only thing that matters, Earth is just a temporary home base for us. You call us disgusting for destroying the environment, but what's the point of the environment without us?

The audacity of this train of thought that humanity is the focal point of existence is the reason why some would elect to "cull" the human species. Honestly, it'd be best if humanity as a whole was extinguished, but striving towards such a goal would prove futile and counterproductive to my own existence. I lack an answer to solve the problem that is humanity, but it certainly is troubling. I would prefer if you would not add to my dismay by making such dismal statements.

dont panic nobody is expecting an answer from you, however this might cheer you up, unlike animals humans can produce and evolve upon rational thought and most importantly change if not ignore our very nature.

once our society it was alright to have slaves, but after a long time it wasn't, just like alot of our more barbaric customs have slowly, well slowly from a human perspective anyway. i could accuse you of the same arrogance by believing that in the short span of time(50.000 years, 8-10.000 as a civilization) that we have occupied the earth, we have done irreparable damage to our 4.5 billion year old planet.

however i digress,my point is that our behavior unlike the animals of this planet can change and is changing,we just have to make sure that we keep reason alive and as the main driving force behind our cultural changes. perhaps valkyrie101 might even concede that as long as we live on earth "well being of earth = well being of humanity" and finally humanity has the future potential to make the universe its cosmic playground nothing else on this planet let alone this solar system can make the same boast.

 

[ralfy]

This reminds me of Ligotti's Conspiracy Against the Human Race and anti-natalism in general.

 

[PrinceOfShapeir]

On a cosmic scale, Humanity matters a hell of a lot more than anything else on this rock. Maybe not a -lot- more, but even if we went extinct tomorrow, we'd still have left more of a mark on the universe on any animal that has ever walked the Earth. We departed our world, left marks on an astral body other than our own, even created our own satellites. That makes us infinitely more significant than any other life form known to man. We've done more than just exist, we've built, we've created.

 

[wiggler]

I honestly cannot understand people who hate their own race. If you hate humanity you must, by extension, hate yourself, and therefore be a depressed and miserable person.

Whats the point in having a planet full of trees and witless creatures? If there's nothing to appreciate it, imo it may as well not be there.

 

[spectrenihlus]

Here's a good way to gauge who should be culled. If you believe that humans should be culled then you should volunteer yourself. The rest of us will go on without you.

 

[Azure Sky]

Not just my fantasy world, mate. It's everyone else's too.

("everyone" here defined as everyone who wants to live, which is nearly everyone)

Hurry up and block me already.

Seriously, I got sick of dealing with this behavior in USWest: Town Square... -.-

Also, get help, you really need it.

 

[AdumbroDeus]

Simple people, industrialize everyone to the point that we are. If it wasn't for immigration the US would have a negative population growth.


This of course brings another problem, stabilizing the population.

 

[Valkyrie101]

Not just my fantasy world, mate. It's everyone else's too.

("everyone" here defined as everyone who wants to live, which is nearly everyone)

Hurry up and block me already.

Seriously, I got sick of dealing with this behavior in USWest: Town Square... -.-

Also, get help, you really need it.

Get help for wanting to live? That's a... strange idea. It's actually quite natural.

Guess what else seeks to survive and thrive at the expense of everything else if necessary? Everything single one of your precious non-human lifeforms. They're as bad as me, really.

Incidentally, you can't block users - was mixed up with another forum. I would ignore you, but the thought of you leaving with the notion that suicidal, genocidal tendencies are somehow the way to go grates. Listen to this guy:

Here's a good way to gauge who should be culled. If you believe that humans should be culled then you should volunteer yourself. The rest of us will go on without you.

 

[wiggler]

While trying to work out how to perform some sort of culling would be amusing (Someone mentioned a lottery? That was quite genius.) I would have to say I am against.

I'm hoping this was just a really bad joke. I agree with you something should be done, however culling deffo isn't the answer, not in any way shape or form, there's no way it is ethical, on this I think we can agree.

However, your dislike for at least the majority of your species staggers me, you must have had a pretty rough time. I mean I cant think of anybody who's okay who hates the majority of people. I think you're the one who should get help and I dont mean that in a nasty or offensive way, or at least I hope it doesn't come across like that. But misanthropic people are almost universally depressed/ have issues.

 

[Azure Sky]

Not just my fantasy world, mate. It's everyone else's too.

("everyone" here defined as everyone who wants to live, which is nearly everyone)

Hurry up and block me already.

Seriously, I got sick of dealing with this behavior in USWest: Town Square... -.-

Also, get help, you really need it.

Get help for wanting to live? That's a... strange idea. It's actually quite natural.

Guess what else seeks to survive and thrive at the expense of everything else if necessary? Everything single one of your precious non-human lifeforms. They're as bad as me, really.

Incidentally, you can't block users - was mixed up with another forum. I would ignore you, but the thought of you leaving with the notion that suicidal, genocidal tendencies are somehow the way to go grates. Listen to this guy:

Here's a good way to gauge who should be culled. If you believe that humans should be culled then you should volunteer yourself. The rest of us will go on without you.

Such a pity, because this is getting old.
Again, if you pulled your head out of your dream world long enough to stop being a git you should have noticed that I, at several points in this thread, disagreed with culling. But if you really intend on twisting what others say for your own petty ends, go for it. Your bullshit is as clear as day.

 

[similar.squirrel]

Culling? That's sick. I'm all for cutting back on reproduction, but outright murder is just disgusting.

We do it to animals all the time, which in itself reinforces his point about how disgusting we are as a species.

That does should not justify being even more disgusting. The alternative [population reduction, by any means, up to and including mass sterilization] is far more humane. In either case, it is unfortunately all too easy for a racialist agenda to sneak into the whole process.

 

[Cowabungaa]

On a cosmic scale, yes, we're irrelevant. On a cosmic scale, everything is irrelevant.

But from a human perspective, we matter a lot. And since we are humans...

True, but that doesn't negate the rest I've said; we're still a relatively weak bunch o' meatbags. Sure, way more powerful than any of the other bunches of meatbags that have ever walked around on this planet, but still rather small. Hence why I see every reason to treat our home with respect and dignity, because we're dependant on it for generations to come. You call it a temporary home, but really, that's just a silly thing to say. Optimistically we're still a couple of centuries away before we don't need this planet any longer, and we're more than powerful enough to destroy ourselves before that, after which the planet just keeps on spinning.

 

[AssassinJoe]

When culling becomes a considered solution, I'm proud to know I'm pro-choice!

 

[PhiMed]

Human wellbeing > planet's wellbeing.

The planet is, ultimately, irrelevant. Humanity is the only thing that matters, Earth is just a temporary home base for us. You call us disgusting for destroying the environment, but what's the point of the environment without us?

It's point is to foster life, and we're not the only species appreciative of the lives we're given. There are millions of species on the planet, and we're ruining it for all of them

Colonize other planetary bodies. Problem solved.

And the whole disgusting cycle starts all over again. It's not enough for you that we're already destroying our native planet?

Yes, yes. Every human is disgusting. Except you, of course. You're special.