And apparently you stand by the rule of "If I can, everyone can; regardless of gender, sexuality, availability, ability, or anything else."BOOM headshot65 said:Actually, that is exactly what I am doing. I am no more violent now than I used to be. I am 18, and I am still a virgin.The_root_of_all_evil said:If you're seriously proposing abstinence before marriage, you're going to have a lot more violence. Hormones are very "persuasive".
So apparently, I have slapped my hormones silly and said "I am in charge here."
I really dont know how to respond to this, because, really, I dont.The_root_of_all_evil said:And apparently you stand by the rule of "If I can, everyone can; regardless of gender, sexuality, availability, ability, or anything else."
And what dogma would that be. Also, NEVER COMPARE ME TO THAT MONSTER AGAIN!!The_root_of_all_evil said:Please tell me Herr Herrenvolk, how is the master race proceeding? Us mere mortals across the world are still enjoying our sex without the imperial dogma.
Did I say I want to install some kind of sex police to make sure people arent "doing it" before marriage, because I dont recall doing that. All I said was I disapprove and dont think people should just because their "hormones say so," or "because they have free will." Its your body, you should be able to control your hormones, and just because you CAN do something, doesnt mean you should.The_root_of_all_evil said:And when are you going to bring your cultural enlightenment to those fearful savages that practice arranged marriages, or - horror of horrors - don't even believe in marriage at all? Chemical Castrations all around?
Heaven forbid that they're allowed the choice the Good Lord says is available to them.
That's how it came across. Putting "Actually" at the front of sentences often gives the impression "You are wrong and I am right."BOOM headshot65 said:I really dont know how to respond to this, because, really, I dont.The_root_of_all_evil said:And apparently you stand by the rule of "If I can, everyone can; regardless of gender, sexuality, availability, ability, or anything else."
First of all, hormones are very powerful things. Given they can change all of our perceptions, I think it's very unfair to say we CAN control them all the time. Could/Should fine. Can is a bit harsh.All I said was I disapprove and dont think people should just because their "hormones say so," or "because they have free will." Its your body, you should be able to control your hormones, and just because you CAN do something, doesnt mean you should.
But my point was that sex isn't at the top of anybody's true priority list. And you are right in saying "companies tap into those primal [desires]", which is dishonest on their part and has adversely affected culture on the whole.tobyornottoby said:Yeah, that's true, but Survival is no longer an issue in modern society. That's why there can be a greater emphasis on sex. The way for a lot of companies to get our money is to tap into those primal needs.KAPTAINmORGANnWo4life said:Huh. I hadn't looked at the Hierarchy in a while. I could have sworn sex was a level up from the physiological needs.
And really, it should be. People will look for a toilet, sandwich, house, or cup of water before they'll look for sex.
So, yeah, what I should have said is "Survival needs are paramount".
It's not like people have been so eager to paint/sculpt/commission naked women through the ages because of some higher meaning though. It's since time immemorial. Plastic surgery is nothing compared to those old fertility statue thingies =pKAPTAINmORGANnWo4life said:But my point was that sex isn't at the top of anybody's true priority list. And you are right in saying "companies tap into those primal [desires]", which is dishonest on their part and has adversely affected culture on the whole.tobyornottoby said:Yeah, that's true, but Survival is no longer an issue in modern society. That's why there can be a greater emphasis on sex. The way for a lot of companies to get our money is to tap into those primal needs.KAPTAINmORGANnWo4life said:Huh. I hadn't looked at the Hierarchy in a while. I could have sworn sex was a level up from the physiological needs.
And really, it should be. People will look for a toilet, sandwich, house, or cup of water before they'll look for sex.
So, yeah, what I should have said is "Survival needs are paramount".
"Spreading your legs" seems old fashioned. With today's contraception, women have a lot of the freedom men have, but your judgement seems to be aimed at one sex only. Although you are right those are not very good excuses. "Because you like it" might be a better one.Sarah Frazier said:With today's economy, few people can afford elegant weddings, so waiting until you can do that wouldn't do anyone any favors. That said, there is something respectable about waiting to have a mutually serious relationship before having sex. Just because someone's rich, hot, can say/do the right things, or you're too weak willed to resist and make them stop doesn't sound like a very good excuse to be spreading your legs. Then again, I'm a bit old fashioned.
Although there are a lot of anime out there that aren't treating their females very respectful .Switchblade 327 said:Would I have sex before I'm married? No, because personally I respect myself enough to offer my own only to one person in my life whom I've yet to meet (although I can tell you for damn sure that it isn't bloody likely that she even exists) and nobody else. It's partially out of my own ethics (which is odd for a Nihilist, I know), partially as a challenge to myself, and partially because I'm kind of an asshole and very average-looking. Also, I'm not really all that interested... Also, most of the girls my age living in this area are insufferable whine-pot-and-std collection bins whom I can't stand to be around. They also aren't very good-looking. Hey, I'm not going to pretend that looks aren't important, fuck you... Also, I <3 Engi... Anime ruined my standards of women... Ah, Japanese animation; where every other female is beautiful, smart, strong, independent, kind, caring, and all I could want...
Yeah, I don't much care for ecchi. I may be a hot-blooded young-man and all, but so much fan service only kills the show...tobyornottoby said:Although there are a lot of anime out there that aren't treating their females very respectful .Switchblade 327 said:Would I have sex before I'm married? No, because personally I respect myself enough to offer my own only to one person in my life whom I've yet to meet (although I can tell you for damn sure that it isn't bloody likely that she even exists) and nobody else. It's partially out of my own ethics (which is odd for a Nihilist, I know), partially as a challenge to myself, and partially because I'm kind of an asshole and very average-looking. Also, I'm not really all that interested... Also, most of the girls my age living in this area are insufferable whine-pot-and-std collection bins whom I can't stand to be around. They also aren't very good-looking. Hey, I'm not going to pretend that looks aren't important, fuck you... Also, I <3 Engi... Anime ruined my standards of women... Ah, Japanese animation; where every other female is beautiful, smart, strong, independent, kind, caring, and all I could want...
What does offering your own to only one person has to do with respect btw? I can understand the difference in offering your own to the one you love or to anyone, but many people fall in love multiple times in their lives.