Poll: Should people wait until they're married to have sex?
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Another point about this waiting til marriage thing...in the past when more people followed this rule, they were also getting married at 12-15 to people they didn't love or care much about because their parents said so.
In the past marriage wasn't about love, and people didn't have to wait that long for sex. Oh, and they died really young, often in child birth if you were a woman...so you didn't have to worry about relationships falling apart as often.
Back in the day we also has slavery, no child labor laws, burning of witches, women as property, etc.
I'd rather live now, with modern evolution of morality.
In the past marriage wasn't about love, and people didn't have to wait that long for sex. Oh, and they died really young, often in child birth if you were a woman...so you didn't have to worry about relationships falling apart as often.
Back in the day we also has slavery, no child labor laws, burning of witches, women as property, etc.
I'd rather live now, with modern evolution of morality.
It's been said before, I believe, but it's worth reiterating. You won't get good at anything if you don't practice it. I think that just waiting to the wedding night is going to turn it into a... Less than stellar experience.
That question is stupid.
Of coarse not, Marriage is a sick ritual designed to bind women to men, the fact that that it still exists in 2011 is simply embarrassing. Sex on the other hand is either a symbol of two people's genuine affection for each other, or to satisfy primal urges we all have. Hell, being Bisexual, I cant even get married to 60% of the people I've had feelings for outside of a few select states. Am I never going to have sex with someone of the same gender because it's not "sanctified" by a god I don't even believe in? Of coarse not.
Oh yes, I AM a militant atheist, I don't Think there is no god, I Know there is no god.
Of coarse not, Marriage is a sick ritual designed to bind women to men, the fact that that it still exists in 2011 is simply embarrassing. Sex on the other hand is either a symbol of two people's genuine affection for each other, or to satisfy primal urges we all have. Hell, being Bisexual, I cant even get married to 60% of the people I've had feelings for outside of a few select states. Am I never going to have sex with someone of the same gender because it's not "sanctified" by a god I don't even believe in? Of coarse not.
Oh yes, I AM a militant atheist, I don't Think there is no god, I Know there is no god.
tobyornottoby said:
Sex is one avenue of pleasure people have been conditioned to hold in high regard. If there wasn't such an emphasis in Western, Left-Wing culture on sex as paramount, there'd be far fewer problems related to it.
The medical analogy, while logical, is inaccurate, because the implication is that the alternative interpretation of sex is positive.
I think it all depends on the person's values. I mean, me and my girlfriend are waiting until our wedding night, but that's just us. We don't judge people who do it earlier.
No, and not just in the 'religion is stupid' way.
Sex changes the dynamics of a relationship. What if a couple of people who get on incredibly well get married, get down to it and suddenly it turns 'weird', as relationships between friends often do?
Sex is not only awesome in of itself and to many people a brilliant way to end a fun night out, but it is a part of a healthily developing relationship. Two people should not commit to each other through marriage unless they have experienced an extended sexual relationship.
Sex changes the dynamics of a relationship. What if a couple of people who get on incredibly well get married, get down to it and suddenly it turns 'weird', as relationships between friends often do?
Sex is not only awesome in of itself and to many people a brilliant way to end a fun night out, but it is a part of a healthily developing relationship. Two people should not commit to each other through marriage unless they have experienced an extended sexual relationship.
People should do whatever the heck they want as long as it's within the bounds of democratic laws.
If that means never having sex at all, go for it.
If that means waiting until you're married, go for it.
If that means waiting until you're in a serious relationship, go for it.
If that means waiting a few dates, go for it.
If that means on a first date, go for it.
If that means having a one-night-stand, go for it.
If that means doing the entire local soccer team, go for it.
Just use a freaking condom please. I do not wish to pay taxes to treat the STD you got through your own stupidity nor to support the child you just weren't ready for.
If that means never having sex at all, go for it.
If that means waiting until you're married, go for it.
If that means waiting until you're in a serious relationship, go for it.
If that means waiting a few dates, go for it.
If that means on a first date, go for it.
If that means having a one-night-stand, go for it.
If that means doing the entire local soccer team, go for it.
Just use a freaking condom please. I do not wish to pay taxes to treat the STD you got through your own stupidity nor to support the child you just weren't ready for.
Now i have a cousin who married his girlfriend after about 8 months because they wouldn't have sex until they were married, it just seemed ridiculous. Especially when she filed for divorce 9 months later.
Personally, im pretty prudish, and i like to wait well into a relationship before the act, but i also don't want to rush into marriage. (or particularly know why a contract is necessary) Personally i think there really should be rules like that in a relationship between two consenting adults.
Personally, im pretty prudish, and i like to wait well into a relationship before the act, but i also don't want to rush into marriage. (or particularly know why a contract is necessary) Personally i think there really should be rules like that in a relationship between two consenting adults.
It's none of my business what people do in their spare time. But unless you're planning on having "Safe Sex"(tm) at least be in a relationship serious enough in that you can handle any possible consequences from the aftermath. (Pregnancy, STDs, etc.)
But like I said, it's none of my business.
But like I said, it's none of my business.
1) Marriage WAS a sick ritual. Given that gay marriage is legal in plenty of countries now, you can't exactly use the sexism argument as anything but its origin.Gmans uncle said:
2) I'm a strong atheist myself, but be wary of using "know" in that sense. You don't know it with 100% certainty, unless you'd make the similarly arrogant claim that you "absolutely know" that you don't live in, say, the Matrix. A scientific view would be to say that we have absolutely no reason to think that there is a god or that we live in the Matrix, that we know with 99.9999...% certainty, but never 100%. Most people don't distinguish between "absolutely know" and "know" in the sense that you used it, which (I hope) is "I know with near-complete certainty."
You're making atheists look bad. Atheism has jack-all to do with this topic in today's age.
No way. I would say that your first time having sex should ideally be with someone that you love and that loves you, but sex in general needs only (morally-speaking) safe practice and mutual understanding between the partners.
If both partners are in it only for the sex, that's fine, but if one is in love and the other only wants sex, then that's morally wrong, etc etc.
If both partners are in it only for the sex, that's fine, but if one is in love and the other only wants sex, then that's morally wrong, etc etc.
