Poll: Should prison inmates be used in pharmaceutical trials?

[The Funslinger]

didnt the nazis do this sort of thing?

The nazis took jewish children in the concentration camps (particularly twins) and attempted various things to make them "aryan", be it surgical stuff, or attempting to mess with DNA. One of the lower tech things for giving them blue eyes they tried was to inject dye into the eyes, which blinded them.

OT: Well given the fact that a lot of prisoners are not AS bad as you would assume (people convicted of murder could have tried to defend someone, blah blah blah, I'm not justifying crime, but a lot of people are falsely imprisoned.) If something like this was going to happen, they'd have to somehow create a perfect justice system. Even then, human rights, please. Imagine what it would be like being forced to live with the side effects of something like that. If people did take prisoner's choices away about this stuff, who really deserves to be behind bars?

 

[Verlander]

I'm shocked and appalled at how many people have voted yes to this

 

[DarkRyter]

Not against their will.

Even if they don't have standards, we do.

 

[OniaPL]

No we shouldn't.

But we should pit volunteering Death Row inmates against each other in a 1vs1 deathmatch (or other deadly events). Loser has his death penalty carried out, and winner gets his execution delayed. I bet that TV-show would get a lot of viewers. Think of the possibilities!

 

[ultrachicken]

Considering the amount of people that get falsely accused: FUCK NO.

Falsely accused =/= falsely convicted.

OT: No, prisoners are still people. They aren't amorphous blobs of evil which we should be using as slaves. I think they should have the right to be tested if they give informed consent.

 

[The Youth Counselor]

What if they gain superpowers?

 

[twiceworn]

clearly a troll post as no one is so stupid or cruel to ask that kind of question unless they are trying to get a rise out of people, so i will just say nice try but no thank you

 

[oppp7]

Considering the amount of people that get falsely accused: FUCK NO.

Falsely accused =/= falsely convicted.

OT: No, prisoners are still people. They aren't amorphous blobs of evil which we should be using as slaves. I think they should have the right to be tested if they give informed consent.

Feh, you know what I mean.

 

[Kashif Omer]

if they are informed, willing, and paid

 

[Darkauthor81]

Not against their will for the same reasons of execution. Sure if the person is guilty, it's all good. But if it turns out later that he isn't guilty then you've preformed a heinous immoral act on an innocent person which would mean you should join them with a prison cell of your own.

 

[Staskala]

didnt the nazis do this sort of thing?

Not with medicine, but there was one nutter who's name I can't remember that would torture twins to see if the other could feel it or remove a limb from one person and attach it to another to see if it could be used. Nasty stuff, but it wasn't with domestic criminals. More like POWs and civilians of invaded countries.

I take your point though. WTF at the thought of even trying this. Besides, you think there are so few people in the world that everyone would notice if a couple got swooped up by a huge corporation to be experimented on? How many people go missing in dangerous or war-ridden countries and just get marked off as MIA?

Paranoia, maybe. But it's possible.

That would be good old Dr. Mengele.

Still, the Nazis did plenty of "genuine" medical/pharmaceutical research on prisoners, no matter where they came from.
Mostly on jews, "lesser races" and retards though, political prisoners fared a little better, as did POWs from Arian countries like France or Britain.

 

[Lazy Kitty]

Sure, definitely if they're in for life...

 

[lacktheknack]

Just because they're criminals doesn't mean we get to wreck their bodies.

Why should we bother when we've still got animals? And if anyone quotes me to tell what an awful person I am for advocating testing on animals, I'd like to point out that THIS is infinitely worse.

 

[Daveman]

With consent, of course, in fact they could perhaps earn money for cigs and posters for their rooms by doing them. Without consent is a monstrous idea though. Truly sick.

 

[lacktheknack]

didnt the nazis do this sort of thing?

Not with medicine, but there was one nutter who's name I can't remember that would torture twins to see if the other could feel it or remove a limb from one person and attach it to another to see if it could be used. Nasty stuff, but it wasn't with domestic criminals. More like POWs and civilians of invaded countries.

I take your point though. WTF at the thought of even trying this. Besides, you think there are so few people in the world that everyone would notice if a couple got swooped up by a huge corporation to be experimented on? How many people go missing in dangerous or war-ridden countries and just get marked off as MIA?

Paranoia, maybe. But it's possible.

Actually... they did a <link=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_human_experimentation>WHOLE FREAKING LOT of experiments on prisoners-of-war.

I had to do a school project on it... not fun.

 

[SenseOfTumour]

If it's dangerous stuff with side effects, approach the Death Row inmates and offer them a month's delay of sentence for each trial they complete.

Some of them would rather live in jail than take the chair, and they'd be doing some good, and paying for their keep, assuming the pharm companies are paying well for the trials.

Again, entirely optional however.

Morgan Spurlock - the 'Supersize Me' guy did a series where he, or a member of the public tried new situations out for '30 days', and one was prison, and whatever people think of the UK system, the US prisons sure aint holiday camps.

I'm actually surprised that there hasn't been a 'reality show' where one of the Richard Littlejohn / Jeremy Kyle types doesn't get a disguise and spend a week or so in a UK prison to show how soft they are. I hope it happens and they have a really rough time, and live in constant terror of being shivved. I don't hope they get stabbed, just that they fear it.

Ok maybe I do a bit.

 

[teebeeohh]

if they are willing and not forced(by things like taking visitation away from everyone in a cell block unless they do drug trials) i can see that prison is a very controlled environment to do drug trials. I may not like the companies and they may produce snake oil most of the time but every once in a while they come up with something good.

 

[Blitzwarp]

No. Prisoners have the same human rights as everybody else, no matter what the crime. The second we take those rights away we become as bad as they are, if not worse.

 

[Anchupom]

I'm not voting because there isn't a "it depends" option.

Do it instead of deathrow.