They call it cruel and unusual punishment for a reason. There is potential for abuse, so the answer, even with consent, is still no.
Poll: Should prison inmates be used in pharmaceutical trials?
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I was part of several clinical trials over my lifetime. All were for testing various drugs and the differences between the brand name and generic varieties (absorbtion rates, side effects, etc) and was well informed of all possible side effects, risks and benefits. If I was uncomfortable with anything I read, I could back out. On top of everything else that went with it (free room and board for the entirety of the study) I was paid nearly $2500 for being there for a week.Staskala said:
With proper consent and discression; why not? They give the opportunity to the general public, why not to those in the prison system?
Yes and we have learnt a lot about medicine from all the Jews they killed in imaginative ways. I don't agree with it though.Merkavar said:
Yes, take all those upstanding citizens with many life sentences and use them for every questionable unethical thing imaginable, they had their shot at being human, now they can be lab rats.
No, the fact that someone has done wrong should not be a card blache to use that person to the 'good grace'of sacrificing his/her self for the wrongdoing comitted. If the choice has been taken away, there isn't any differece between the once violated and thus makes 'us' no 'better' than the once who comitted the crime.
I think the pain caused by these forced experiments certainly puts me off the idea.. (I don't care what that philosopher said..)
I assume this idea is getting more towards Prisons being a place of retribution which they should be the opposite because retribution does nothing towards healing situations and its a primal and horrible idea..
Besides imagine knowing someone living in one of these prisons knowing they have to take forced drugs for whatever crime they committed..
TBH, drug research should find alternative methods of testing than direct contact with any creature.. we know now how the human body acts, should be possible to test drugs according to sets of tests in artificial organs etc.. buts thats going off topic..
Conclusion.. Big fat NO from me..
I assume this idea is getting more towards Prisons being a place of retribution which they should be the opposite because retribution does nothing towards healing situations and its a primal and horrible idea..
Besides imagine knowing someone living in one of these prisons knowing they have to take forced drugs for whatever crime they committed..
TBH, drug research should find alternative methods of testing than direct contact with any creature.. we know now how the human body acts, should be possible to test drugs according to sets of tests in artificial organs etc.. buts thats going off topic..
Conclusion.. Big fat NO from me..
Hasn't the US prison system (EXAGERRATION INCOMING!!! YOU HAVE BEEN INFORMED) 're-invented the slave-trade', in that they have to work building so many things it's unreal e.g. 100% U.S military bullets, flak jackets and helmets are produced by US prison labour.Woodsey said:
I honestly have no idea if this is seen as part of that 'punishment' you mentioned, but if not, surely this is no different to the pharmaceuticals, if not worse as it's that or solitary confinement (EDIT: this is assuming that the pharmaceuticals thing is a choice, not forced)
against the prisoners will with no compensation at all?
absolutely not. MY GOD no.
that's actually a morally horrible idea.
Now, should the prisoners be able to opt in to a pharmecutical test, maybe paying money to family members outside for their inclusion in the trial, certainly.
But just testing shit on prisoners? No. That's horrible.
edit: For once, I'm actually happy with the responses here, because I was really thinking a lot of people would think this is a great idea, because this site seems to be a little misanthropic.
absolutely not. MY GOD no.
that's actually a morally horrible idea.
Now, should the prisoners be able to opt in to a pharmecutical test, maybe paying money to family members outside for their inclusion in the trial, certainly.
But just testing shit on prisoners? No. That's horrible.
edit: For once, I'm actually happy with the responses here, because I was really thinking a lot of people would think this is a great idea, because this site seems to be a little misanthropic.
Hmm the benefits of this could be great as for humans they are the perfect 'test subjects' as everything about them is monitored, so it would be far easier to make progress in the development of drugs.
But whether this should be optional I don't know, this would liken them to nothing more than lab rats but for some perhaps that is more than they deserve.
Whatever the case optional participation would be valuable to science. So yes this is a good idea.
But whether this should be optional I don't know, this would liken them to nothing more than lab rats but for some perhaps that is more than they deserve.
Whatever the case optional participation would be valuable to science. So yes this is a good idea.
Dear God what the fuck happened to human rights?
They're prisoners, not beasts. No, of course we shouldn't test them on prisoners.
They're prisoners, not beasts. No, of course we shouldn't test them on prisoners.
Not in the US, where coughing in the wrong way can send you behind bars. Seriously, how does the US have a higher prison population than China? Not a higher incarceration PERCENTAGE, a higher TOTAL POPULATION. Now, if the vast majority of those in prison weren't nonviolent offenders, I might have a different opinion.