Poll: Should the Fallout setting go European (or anywhere else)?

[DustyDrB]

I think Europe was completely decimated beyond the possibility of having survivors.
Wait a minute...

EDIT: Forgot to check the search bar to see if this has been done before. If it has, sorry for the redundancy.

That's basically the question. Or rather, would it be good for the franchise if Bethesda took Fallout in this direction? I don't know about you, but in the Fallout-verse I've often wondered how the rest of the world fared in the nuclear apocalypse.

But then, the entirety of the Fallout lore has been squarely set in America. There really hasn't been any mention of any other country--save for maybe China or Canada. The truth of the matter is that the Fallout feel and experience weighs heavily on the 50's style Cold War influence and irony found mainly in American history. Changing settings would mean changing everything. But, we in gaming know that isn't always a bad thing.

I dunno. Could any of you see it? A European, Asian, Australian setting in the Fallout-verse? What kind of ideas would you have that would make such a radical change work? What would need to be in this game to make it still feel like Fallout? Discuss away.

Europe has been picked clean before the great war. In facty, Europe has been nuked two times. Once during its civil war, then again during the great war. There is nothing to search, its gone. The middle east is also considered destroyed and China is literally hell on earth post war.

There. The Escpaist's resident Fallout historian has spoken.

 

[GonzoGamer]

Actually, China and Europe got it even worse than America.

Thanks for clearing that up. Where in the canon do you find out what happened in EU?

The Fallout Bibles have some information about it, but it's right there in the opening narration of the first game: "The European Commonwealth dissolved into quarrelling, bickering nation-states, bent on controlling the last remaining resources on Earth."

I don't remember that part. So they were bickering but did they get bombed back to the stone age? I would imagine not if they were fighting over the last remaining resources on earth. It sounds more like social destruction rather than physical destruction.
Seeing how the social destruction evolved (or devolved) from that time would make an interesting setting for a Fallout game.

 

[kingthrall]

As much as I hate anything to do with Asia being in video games (to do with culture not race). I think China would suit best since a lot of the story is based upon the events of Alaska and China.

Still Id love to see Australia, MadMax style as an option

 

[martin's a madman]

Fallout Europe exists. Its called Stalker.

No its not. Chernobyl actually happened, thats not to say that The Events in Stalker actually had much to do with the initial incident as "It was an undisturbed location for our group of misguided scientists to do science." And I could go on for longer if I had the time and patience about both games being almost infinitely different from each other. And I also don't get why STALKER is always labled "Post apocalyptic". I thought Post apoc. was the world, not just a small(ish) corner of Ukraine?

The thing is, fallout Lore (which should be followed more accordingly, I'm looking at you bethesda,) has Europe pretty much decimated before the United States even was nuked. It could work, but it Might not. Also, Fallout's social commentary was always poking at the US paranoia of communism. Europe is pretty chilled out in the paranoia regard IMO.

What about the Paranoia in Europe about Islam? That could be something interesting to explore.

 

[faefrost]

I'm going to say no.

Fallout is steeped in Americana and without that, I don't think it would work.

This. It isn't so much that Fallout is bound to America as it is bound to and wrapped up in that kitschy Americanna 50's cold war vibe and many of the absurdities over it that hindsight gives us. It's sort of intergral to the whole feel and experience of the franchise. Without it you are just making a Mad Max clone of a game.

While I would love to see how some of the rest of the world fared during the Fallout timeline, I am not sure you could base a whole game around a region that isn't as seeped in those American Cold War absurdities... or even worse a region that actually lived daily amidst some of the Cold Wars brutal realities. (Yeah I'm thinking Fallout: East Berlin would not be quite the darkly humored laugh fest we might hope for)

Maybe as a DLC setting that pulls your already established character out of there and in some way drops them into a foreign land for some insane task? But I can't see building the whole campaign setting of a game around it without stripping out some key elements of the parody inherent in the games.

 

[garjian]

No.
They wont make it correctly... it will be a collection of stereotypes, sat inside Westminster with the queen, eating pies with bad teeth and spluttering: "'ello mate, fancy some tea?", as their bowler hat falls from there head and hooks onto their stuck out little finger while they sip some tea, then bow to the queen shouting: "tally-ho, m'lady"... im sure you get the picture.

i dont trust anyone to do it properly, unless theyre based anywhere in the UK, besides london... and im pretty sure people from european countries would feel the same.
The game would still be catered towards americans, and therefore would only contain what they generally understand about the country... and not truly what it would be like, parody or not.

 

[StraightToHeck]

I was gonna say have a Fallout in the ruins of Moscow, but then I realized that Metro 2033 existed

 

[Jason Danger Keyes]

I'm not sure the rest of the world would be a total wasteland, if memory serves it was America and China that traded nukes, without including everyone else.

 

[Zantos]

I think it'd be interesting. The could do Fallout: Hull and not even have to wait for the nuclear war to happen before people roam a wasteland shooting mutants. (South Yorkshire forever!)

 

[Commander Jack Rankin]

It's an interesting idea, but not true to the Fallout series being "America-centric". One way it could work though, set the next game in the Northeastern U.S. That could open the door to setting a DLC pack in the remains of Canada.

 

[rokkolpo]

No!

We Europeans are hosting great shows about the fallout in America.
Laughing our asses off and making profit!

OT: Yeah definitely, I'd love to see Berlin in a Fallout setting.
Since Berlin can look pretty creepy and intimidating as it is now.
With that I mean the part that was behind the iron curtain.

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

I'm generally of the opinion that the specific Fallout setting is all but required to take place in the Continental US. I am not adverse to making a game using the Fallout scenario in some other place.

 

[GonzoGamer]

Actually, China and Europe got it even worse than America.

Thanks for clearing that up. Where in the canon do you find out what happened in EU?

The Fallout Bibles have some information about it, but it's right there in the opening narration of the first game: "The European Commonwealth dissolved into quarrelling, bickering nation-states, bent on controlling the last remaining resources on Earth."

I don't remember that part. So they were bickering but did they get bombed back to the stone age? I would imagine not if they were fighting over the last remaining resources on earth. It sounds more like social destruction rather than physical destruction.
Seeing how the social destruction evolved (or devolved) from that time would make an interesting setting for a Fallout game.

Actually it stated in Fallout 1 that the resources they fought so hard for had to be used for more war.


Its all in this video. Europe practically screwed itself when it leveled the Middle East trying to get oil.

Are there more details in these "Fallout Bibles" you speak of because this doesn't indicate that EU was any worse off than the US?
What are they anyway, a website or some sort of collector's swag?

 

[Al-Bundy-da-G]

It would be interesting, but since the war that destroyed the world was fought between The United States and China so the only real option there is besides the united states would be china. And I'm not sure if "Made in China" Vaults even existed in the fiction.

 

[StBishop]

Fallout Europe exists. Its called Stalker.

I'm sure you're sick of being quoted for this, but good call.

I for one love seeing American made games depicting non-American locales. It's interesting to see the countries/regions through a different (albeit only slightly) cultural lens.

Also, I'm sick of pretty much every non-fantasy game being set in the states or Japan.

That being said, it's understandable. If I made a game I'd set it somewhere I felt familiar with and connected to.

 

[5t3v0]

Fallout Europe exists. Its called Stalker.

No its not. Chernobyl actually happened, thats not to say that The Events in Stalker actually had much to do with the initial incident as "It was an undisturbed location for our group of misguided scientists to do science." And I could go on for longer if I had the time and patience about both games being almost infinitely different from each other. And I also don't get why STALKER is always labled "Post apocalyptic". I thought Post apoc. was the world, not just a small(ish) corner of Ukraine?

The thing is, fallout Lore (which should be followed more accordingly, I'm looking at you bethesda,) has Europe pretty much decimated before the United States even was nuked. It could work, but it Might not. Also, Fallout's social commentary was always poking at the US paranoia of communism. Europe is pretty chilled out in the paranoia regard IMO.

What about the Paranoia in Europe about Islam? That could be something interesting to explore.

Problem is, that is current, and its a lot more controversial. Also, it would be hard to represent it in an exaggerated way (which in the fallout Universe, is the only way it would work to be interesting rather than just being a nothing "Gritty" game) without someone being offended.

Also, Paranoia about Islam only really started in the last 10 years. And It was europe that nuked itself, not Islamic states (although the middle east still had their conflict. The Fallout Bible states in the timeline that Tel Aviv was nuked at the end of an already bad year)