Poll: Should there be a black bond?

[axia777]

Um... Bond was written as an asshole lest we forget. Casino Royale is fairly true to the book and the original character except there are a bunch of action sequences added in and the movie is updated to fit modern storytelling techniques.

This is actually true. People who think he was written as a suave debonair have never read the books by Fleming. Sure he got laid, but Bond was actually a real had case asshole.

And he was a white British man. Nothing can change that.

It does not. Honoring the source material does. People need to stop trying to re-write perfectly good written characters.

M was a man and Bond had black hair.

And since race doesn't matter, how is it a rewrite of a perfectly "good" written character?

Changing race changes origins. M does not matter because it is a secondary character that we hardly see. It is not the archetypal charter that Bond has became. Hair color also really does not matter much as it is but a small detail. Race is no small detail. It is a large one.

And when I say race does not matter I mean in the context of black super heroes are just as valid as white ones. But only if they are written that way. I would not want Blade or Shaft to be turned white of any other race either.

 

[gabriel_pierce]

As some above said, only if Chiwetel Ejiofor gets the job. Otherwise, no.

Well, ok, on one condition. I get to remake Shaft with the titular character played by Will Ferrell

 

[axia777]

Well, ok, on one condition. I get to remake Shaft with the titular character played by Will Ferrell

That would be terrible.....

 

[DeusFps]

Who ever can play the character well. But it would be retarded to change something like that. White people are too guilty these days. I mean blacks don't care if the guy is white, why should we?

 

[rayman 101]

I quite frankly don't care, because I'm not going to see a another new Bond film after Quantum of Solace.

 

[Yegargeburble]

Political Correctness is unnecessary, I just believe it doesn't matter, all we need is a good actor.

Maybe Samuel L Jackson. "I want these mother****ing agents, off my mother****ing mission!"

I would watch a bond movie with Samuel L Jackson...would be the most hilarious film ever, though it would also suck horribly.

 

[curlycrouton]

I think, go for it, as long as it worked, and that he was British. (I'm not being racist, surely you know that all Bonds are British?)

Yeah, about that. Pierce Brosnon, the second last Bond was Irish. He was born in Navan which is in Meath. So sorry about that. But not all Bond's are British

Now, to reply to the original topic. No i dont think a black bond will work becasue, Bond is white. Im not racist but i just think Bond should stay the same as he was for years. Thats why i dont really like Daniel Craig as a Bond..he acts like an ass hole and he has blonde hair. He just isint James Bond. No matter how hard he tires, he will never be a Bond to me.

No, I meant the Bond character is British. Hell, an American could play him if he acted as a convincing Brit.

Black Bond.....Like I said, by all means, as long as it worked, and as long as it wasn't condescending.

 

[Spectre39]

If the makers of Bond wanted to change the race of the protagonist, than they had better be making such a decision based on their intended target audience. I get the feeling that most of the the people who grew up with Bond, would rather than he retained some shred of his original form. And if he were black, the new black audience would be disappointed that the character isn't like the guy in Rush Hour 3. I don't mean to generalize, but the black people that I know tend to want to see action films and "yeeeeaaaah booooi" humor intertwined when the protagonist is black. I think they'll be snoring if the "Black Bond" wasn't Chris Rock.

 

[Meangunns]

Please do not add to the poll. I did the poll this way to deal with absolutes. "If done correctly then yes" is subjective. If it was done then the people who are saying yes would lean more towards saying it was done correctly while the ones saying no wouldn't. So an option like that tells us nothing we don't already know.

I see.

So basically you want people to condense their opinions into a simple binary answer? If you were going to do that, you could at least ask the right question The question you should be asking is "Could there be a black Bond?/ The question of should comes after the possibility has been established.

Look the whole point of being able to post in the thread is to explain why you think it should or should not happen. Beside you only added a seconday yes option and not a seconday no option. Basically you only cared about expanding on one opinion. Also the question is should and not could. The possibility has been and will always be there anything is possible. The question is should it happen, is okay to change an established character. Not to mention you added another option after a lot of people had already voted.

 

[The Wooster]

Come on. Those fuckers went ballistic over a blonde Bond. I don't think I could handle the whining and shrieks of "WELL I THOUGHT RACE DIDN'T MATTER MISTER SMARTY PANTS!!". That being said I think it'd be make for an interesting twist providing twist. Each actor has portrayed the character in a very different way which, in my sweet and humble opinion, is what's given him his longevity. That and we all love thinly disguised boner jokes.

 

[Yegargeburble]

If they were to, the guy who played the Operative in Serenity, he was also in Children of Men whose name I unfortunately can't spell, would be the best choice

I agree with you. If Bond were to change race, that would be the best actor for the job.

Edit: Bond's skin color does not matter, as long as he is British (Or Scottish).

 

[superbleeder12]

in my opinion it would take the enjoyment out of it. I'd be spending the entire movie wondering how much smaller my peins is than black bond's. I'd walk out of there with a complex, not even remembering a single plot point.

 

[Amnestic]

If they were to, the guy who played the Operative in Serenity, he was also in Children of Men whose name I unfortunately can't spell, would be the best choice

I agree with you. If Bond were to change race, that would be the best actor for the job.

Edit: Bond's skin color does not matter, as long as he is British (Or Scottish).

Or Irish. Or Australian.

 

[beddo]

It's irrelevant, unless you're a racist moron from the deep south of America, what does it matter? The Bond series has already been ruined by the latest two Jason Bourne copy-cat films.

Jason Bourne isn't a copy of James Bond! Just because they both have spies, they're almost nothing alike.

Besides, you can quite clearly see that Casino Royale took a lot from the Bourne films to apply it to Bond.

Here's why the Bourne series is better, or at least why the third film is; there is no forced love interest. It doesn't hamper the story and doesn't force those same tired clichés down our throats.

In every Bond film he has to fall for a woman, have her double cross him, have her save him and then end up with him to be forgotten in the next film.

As to whether there should be a black Bond. If you want it to match the original idea that Flemming had then it would be your typical white high class Brit from the sixties.

But really it's a bit of a racist question because colour should have no effect on the character. I mean there's no reason Bond couldn't be a woman or in a wheelchair or have a gay relationship.

If you want it to match the original idea that Flemming had then it would be your typical white high class Brit from the sixties.

 

[axia777]

If you want it to match the original idea that Flemming had then it would be your typical white high class Brit from the sixties.

Bond started in 1953, just to let you know.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casino_Royale_(novel)

 

[GenHellspawn]

Despite the novels being written in the 50's, I think that Samuel Jackson would've made a perfect Bond. Why? Go watch Pulp Fiction. Imagine his character, but on steroids.

 

[Slayer_2]

Almost every movie they get a new actor who looks totally different, so I don't give a shit really. Also, James Bond isn't a very good series in my eyes anyhow, he seems like some kinda super-hero with no explination as to how he got his super strength, skill and the ability to make all his "stunts" work out. AKA: taking down 20+ African soldiers with two well-placed pistol shots.

 

[Spacelord]

Personally, I think it would be fine, so long as he stays male and British. Those are the only two aspects of the character I believe to be sacrosanct.

Also, chest hair. CHEST HAIR.