Poll: Should There be Gay Characters in Kid's Shows/Films?

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Serge A. Storms

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Kids aren't going to freak the fuck out about it unless parents freak the fuck out about it; the only problem in this equation is that there's still a significant number of parents that would, in fact, freak the fuck out.

It's fine, but it won't address the deeper problem with parents teaching their kids how to be bigots.
 

FirmartheTrilby

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Boundless Apathy said:
Am I the only one thinking that at the age you could be referred to as a kid most people honestly did not want to know about any form of sexuality it was "icky" and instead just wanted to mess about and be annoying.
That is not always case...I started doing "that" when I was 9 years old and I was interested in women's body much earlier... I was always strange one though

RedEyesBlackGamer said:
"Why not?" is a better question. Seriously, what is the big deal?
Absolutely agree with you!
 

Exterminas

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I messed up my quotes

What exactly are the reasons against incestous homosexual intercurse? I mean aside from the fact that most people find it distastefull.
 

TheDrunkNinja

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SilentCom said:
I don't think kid's shows should have any type of sexual connotations.
^This. Showing that you're open-minded is okay. When it comes to kid shows, anything related to sexuality should be segregated until they can fully comprehend the concept.
 

BreakfastMan

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Wolfy2449 said:
BreakfastMan said:
The far more important question, in my mind at least, is why kids shows need to be talking about any kind of sexuality in the first place.
They dont talk about sexuality, many many cartoons(even some for very small kids) have a character fall in love with a member of the opposite gender. That shows sexual orientation, not sexual things. The act of "loving, kissing, marriage is oftenly seen in cartoons and it only happens between males and females.
By adding a few gay characters you ll make ppl more comfortable with homosexuality from an early age so we ll have less homophobics.

The problem is simple though, Homophobic parents will rage when they see something like that on tv

But i guess this thread fails, because most ppl are very dirty and immediately thing that adding gay in a cartoon means sexuality and cocks...
Okay, I kind've get what you are saying. DTJ did bring up a good example that I did not think of immediately when making my post. I guess it just depends on the age the show is going for. I would not want any kind of sexuality in something meant for younger children like Dora the Explorer or Barney and Friends, but something meant for older children (like 10+ or so) could add it if it makes sense.

EDIT: Sexuality was probably the wrong word to use in this post. I mean something closer to what you describe, not actual sex...
 

funguy2121

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No.

(1) That thing that makes homosexuals different from heterosexuals is romance related.

(2)Also, sex would be highly unsuitable and would promote the wrong message to young 'uns of "shag yourself happy".

(3)Everyone goes through hormonal shifts as a teenager and they find themselves sexually attracted to anything. Teens who'd relate themselves to the characters would think they will forever be gay.

(4) what would be the evolutionary benefit for a few members of a species not wanting to reproduce.

(5)How do you know that characters in existing kids shows *aren't* gay?

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***Edit III*** I don't mind if a character in a kids shows has "two mummies" or "two daddies" as long as thier parents don't define the character. Otherwise is another form of subconscious bullying. The character has no characteristics except for their gay parents and that is how the character will be refered as constantly in discussion.
(1) Huh? Ok, the difference between guy-guy and guy-girl is romance related. I disagree, but I'll follow - please elaborate.

(2) You're assuming that this is a bad thing. What if young teens shag themselves happy but figure out/are taught early on to glove up, and get some of the akwardness and confidence issues out of the way? Is that really so bad? Back your points up!

(3) That's not the way people work. Your talking about sexual elasticity and you don't even realize it. More gay and straight people than will admit are, to be simplistic, a little bi, and they first discover it during puberty - only to bury it for years, because of the sort of things you're saying here. God knows I found some of the people/things that turned me on during puberty mortifying, but I was never in any danger of a TV show convincing me that I might be falsely gay.

(4) To save a resource- and food-starved world from overpopulation.

(5) Because they're made to be understood by kids, so whether they're made by the precious few who actually try to make effective, intelligent content for children or the deplorable lummoxes who dumb it down thinking "what the Hell, kids is stupid," it's all accessible. A gay character would be obvious by design.

(6)Again, huh?
 

lacktheknack

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SilentCom said:
I don't think kid's shows should have any type of sexual connotations.
This. Why does it matter? If anything, it will just be another show the kid's parents won't let him watch if you're trying to spread tolerance. How about recognizing that Thomas the Train Engine isn't MEANT to deal with any sexual topics at all?
 

Charli

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If you look reeeeally closely, there are some already, never explicitly stated but yes, Male-Female relationships are far more obvious and championed than Male-Male, Female-Female ones.

Shows that don't imply sexuality in anyway should make no effort to do the opposite, they are fine as is. But those that focus on some specifically could make a conscious effort to focus on one or two homosexual... interactions (I struggle to say relationships because kids shows rarely go that far) but some interaction would be nice now and then.

Kids show: My definition is those aimed at the demographic 7-13, Children capable of understanding the differences between Male and Female and who's show's imply that relationships exist. (Ex: A:TLA, DC's cartoons etc)

Kiddie show: The ones below the age demographic of 7 and are usually ambiguous drug induced fusion of cutesyness anyway and have no need to imply that there is such thing as gender. (Ex: Thomas the Tank engine etc.)
 

Phenakist

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Frankly I think all children's TV has went down hill since say the mid/late 90's, but yeah slightly more on topic, I'm not agaisnt homosexuality, but in a kids show? really? yeah there's that whole "Oh but they might have 2 dad's/mum's", they may also have an extra buttok.

What was wrong with the old days where the only accent kids heard on tv was the "local" one or a generic "BBC accent" all I'm hearing these dasy is regionals from various parts of england, as a perfect example my friend's little sister was somewhat of a "late one" and has been growing up with the new millenium's kiddie programmes which are frankly mind numbing to watch. Now, to the point, me and my friend essentially grew up together watching the good old stuff "Fireman Sam Thomas the Tank Engine, Postman Pat, Play Days" anything that the BBC had really, both adapted a degree of the local accent and our parents. However his little sister has some sort of "hybrid" accent of various regional english accents along with the local Belfast one.

Now the real point, if that sort of "programming" can happen simply by watching those kiddie programmes despite all the normal strong influences, namely parents/friends/school, if homosexuality is made a "big thing" I can't say I want that, hell I knew Ernie and Bertie were "good buddies", I knew "Him" wore girls clothes, and I am accepting of all that, I don't see any need to reinforce that any more. There are plenty of silly antics of crossdressing and homosexuality in various cartoons, and if someone becomes homophobic, it's not the TV's fault.
 

teisjm

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Well, if the show can include sexuality, then sure.

Though seeing how a lot of kids shows handle hetrosexuality, homosexuality would prolly just come off as friendship, in a lot of cases, so it wouldn't even matter.
 

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Jesus Christ, if I had known when I was 5 that all of the things that I thought were wrong with me then were normal parts of being a human being SO MUCH trouble could have been avoided!!! Anyone who is against there being gays, bisexuals, asexuals, transgendered people, or anything else under the sun in children's programming obviously never lived through the fear and the shame of knowing that you'd never be one of those nice people living nice lives, unless you could change something THAT integral to who you are as a person.

It's not about discrimination and there not being enough other role models. It's about children being able to accept themselves for who they are.
 

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No. They should be included in teen shows, though. Things like Lizzie McGuire or Sister Sister or Sabrina.

Edit: Because I don't think any kind of sexual relationship, implied or otherwise, has a place a children's programme.
Characters acting atypically for their gender? Sure. Nothing wrong with that.
 

funguy2121

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Jaime_Wolf said:
...kids' shows shouldn't have hetereosexuals or homosexuals? That leaves remarkably little room for...well...humans.
I think he's saying that kid's shows (or kiddss'ss shows, as he says) should exclusively feature Andy Warhol (and maybe some eunichs)
 

SupabadMan

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No. Kids barely know anything about sex in the first place, sexual orientation is on a lesser scale. If they did, it would go completely over their heads and they would barely understand the concept of it. (Even then with homosexual parents, the kids are going to be confused when they have 2 dads or 2 moms and they see everyone else with 1 dad and 1 mom.)
 
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Exterminas said:
I messed up my quotes

What exactly are the reasons against incestous homosexual intercurse? I mean aside from the fact that most people find it distastefull.
Oh, sorry I thought it was straight incest. Well then scratch the biological part, but keep the moral thing, it just doesnt seem right to do it with someone your related to. I mean if it was straight, but one person was infertile, would that make it right? Not really in my opinion.