But the rioters aren't killing. Taking the Brixton riots as an example, very few (even none in the case of Brixton) people actually die in riots. And the police should only shoot to save lives. Seriously, if we started gunning down rioters like a Middle Eastern dictatorship, the riots and unrest will only increase.Robert Ewing said:
Poll: Should UK police be given guns as standard issue?
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I kind of agree with the points people are making that go against giving police guns, however we can't avoid the fact that the police here in the UK are woefully underequipped to deal with this sort of event, and also woefully undertrained. So I would actually advocate more weapons, but limit it to the police being given tear gas, stun guns and tazers, and rifles with rubber bullets. Nothing lethal, but enough to hurt and cause major pain to rioters, so that they are incapacitated and unable to cause harm to either police or the public. And yes, that should be standard issue to all police, because they don't know if they're going to be dealing with crazed psychos or simple muggers or what when they're called out, so the police need a way of dealing with the dangerous thugs properly without having to wait for firearms cops to turn up and without significant risk that the perp is going to end up dead.
Added to that, riot training needs to be improved, and fast, and every single police officer out there needs bto be fully trained and up-to-date on tactics to deal with this sort of thing so that rioters simply can't cause trouble to the extent they are now the next time something like this happens.
Added to that, riot training needs to be improved, and fast, and every single police officer out there needs bto be fully trained and up-to-date on tactics to deal with this sort of thing so that rioters simply can't cause trouble to the extent they are now the next time something like this happens.
No worries, not like you were taking anything out of context.teh_gunslinger said:
Exactly. Unlike you, I don't get nervous around the police, but I would if they were visibly armed. I'd just stare, then they'd be wondering what the hell my game is, eyeing up their weapons, etc etc. Armed police are a necessity, just not in everyday policing. As long as they are kept protecting vulnerable infrastructure and government buildings (where applicable), then that's fine. Seeing them in the streets, as you say, is a totally different kettle of fish.
This. In addition to the fact that I don't trust our police force to handle firearms responsibly when they've already managed to commit manslaughter with batons in the past. I'm betting the only people who voted yes on this issue don't actually live in the UK.Woodsey said:
Given what apparently happens when the police shoot someone, I'd say it is probably better for that to happen less. The police don't need guns because the civilians don't have guns.
Aside from that, how would guns help here? The police are already better equipped than the rioters, but massively outnumbered (two officers can't defend a shop from hundreds of looters). What would armed police do, mow them down with machine guns? Public unrest isn't necessarily best resolved by eliminating the public.
Aside from that, how would guns help here? The police are already better equipped than the rioters, but massively outnumbered (two officers can't defend a shop from hundreds of looters). What would armed police do, mow them down with machine guns? Public unrest isn't necessarily best resolved by eliminating the public.
That's the only bit that I agree with wholeheartedly.miketehmage said:
Massive, massive no to guns. Massive, massive yes to letting the police actually use their issue equipment and enforcement powers as necessary without the automatic demented honking from the politically correct about 'police brutality' or 'heavy-handed policing'.
Define innocent... He had a draw gun and a criminal record. In Britain carrying a gun is an offense, drawing it on armed police is stupid.Dragunai said:
Yeah I should probably update that message to read, gun totting drug dealer who had it coming.ironduke88 said:
What I don't get is, why are people protesting and rioting as a result of justice being done?
Seem's the world is completely backward these days.
That's a good point. Also, people keep complaining that there aren't enough games set in the UK. Now, a few high-profile massacres and trigger happy police would developers much more willing to set certain types of games there.Soods said:
Oh, you mean that Criminal that was known to be carrying a gun and was involved in a shooting? A Police officer Shot him in the head for trying to shoot him first?Spygon said:
Really? What a Horrible thing for the Police to do, shooting a man just for trying to kill them first, what horrible people the Police are.... -_-
Officers in the US only use their guns when lives are in direct danger. i.e a crazed driver tries to run people over the cop then has the right to lethal force. OR if someone is holding a lethal weapon of their own. Its not like the cops in the US shoot people for the hell of it.
