Poll: Should We Be Able To Use Any Substance (drug) We Want?

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goatzilla8463

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I think that the harder drugs are banned for a reason. I also think that the age limitations for alcohol and smoking are reasonable.
 

Volodanti

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I'm guessing you mean in everyday life, cos in the Olympics, hells yeah!
Stoned Olympics: 20 men line up to begin a race, 3 vomit, 8 fall over, one draws a picture, and the rest run randomly til we get bored.
Or perhaps the Steroi-lympics: the triple jump replaced with the hop, skip and where-the-hell'd-he-go event

Just imagine it....
 

Zacharine

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No, for the simple reason that while I have no problem with people fucking themselves up if they want to, it's the society and the people around them that eventually have to pick up the pieces and pay the bill. Or the ones who get hurt and deal with the consequences while the person who is stoned/high/dancing with the rainbows/drooling on the sidewalk is having the time of their life or a really, really bad trip.
 

Eagle Est1986

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Hmmmm... it would certainly help thin the population.
Though if all drugs were legal, there would probably be a lot less people over-dosing from them, after all, all drugs could then be regulated and people could be properly educated on their use.
It's certainly better than telling people to just say "No".
 

Superior Mind

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Ahh, the Stoner Olympics, where illegal substance abuse is when your coach holds up a sandwich at the finish line.
 

Iron Mal

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I get the feeling that the reasons behind the forbidding of most drugs are as follows:

a) They can potentially harm the individual

b) They can directly or indirectly harm those around the individual

a) is very much debateable seeing as subjecting yourself to danger and harm is a parsonal choice however b) is not as clear cut, should someone else potentially suffer because of your actions or impaired judgement?
 

WeedWorm

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Yes, we should be allowed. No one should have the right to tell us what we can and cant put into our bodies. Sure, they can say all they want about why we shouldnt and all the ramifications of it but thats a different matter entirely.
 

WalkingParadox1

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Imagine this.
Alcoholic drinks have just been discovered/invented and governments are considering releasing them for the general public to buy. So if we pretend that this thread is discussing the matter of alcohol being legalized then it seems totally ridiculous that the weaker drugs are still illegal.
For example in this thread people are saying 'could you imagine if drugs were legal? The world would go to hell and everyone would be killing each other and be off their face all day' etc etc.
Alcohol IS legal. Does it harm the body and even kill? Yep. Is everyone totally wasted all day? Nope.
I would say there is nothing wrong with weed. There is no solid evidence that it does damage.
Anyway if my post has confused you about what I think which it probably has... I just think it's stupid how alcohol and cigarettes are legal yet some drugs aren't.
 

El Poncho

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Drugs cost alot of money and there are people who can't afford them, they become addicted the drug dealer threatens to kill him if he doesn't pay up he loses his job for being late for work or other things. He has to resort to crime or if it's woman some resort to prostitution.
 

wewontdie11

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Some stuff should be allowed. Weed particularly. I don't see the logic in having tobacco and alcohol legalised when they are both far more dangerous than weed. To quote Bill Hicks, ?I have never seen two people on pot get in a fight because it is fucking IMPOSSIBLE. "Hey, buddy!" "Hey, what?" "Ummmmmmm...." End of argument.?.

Harder stuff like cocaine and speed should be kept illegal though. Those things are highly addictive and will fuck you up eventually.
 

Crimsane

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Iron Mal said:
should someone else potentially suffer because of your actions or impaired judgement?
Is it even a question? I mean, it seems like a pretty obvious "no" to me.
 

khaimera

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I love this topic since I work in the addcition field. I for one think that all drugs should be legal. I could write a dissertation on the topic but will only pick out some of my favorite points.

1. Drug use will be prevalent no matter what the laws are, hence the war on drugs will always fail and waste billions of dollars. Its a part of human nature to alter consciousness.

2. People who have issues to begn with will behave badly whether drugs are involved are not, though drugs make it easier to do so.

3. Why isn't illegal to put everything harmful in your body, like drinking bleach.

4. The crime and drug link is based on correlation, not causation, and confounding variables
are responsible for the link.
 

Iron Mal

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Crimsane said:
Iron Mal said:
should someone else potentially suffer because of your actions or impaired judgement?
Is it even a question? I mean, it seems like a pretty obvious "no" to me.
It was a rhetorical question (like you said, it's obvious that the answer is no), granted, I probably didn't show that very well but my point remains valid.
 

Crimsane

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Iron Mal said:
Crimsane said:
Iron Mal said:
should someone else potentially suffer because of your actions or impaired judgement?
Is it even a question? I mean, it seems like a pretty obvious "no" to me.
It was a rhetorical question (like you said, it's obvious that the answer is no), granted, I probably didn't show that very well but my point remains valid.
Aye, sorry. Didn't get much sleep, so I missed the rhetorical nature of it.
 

Jark212

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wewontdie11 said:
Some stuff should be allowed. Weed particularly. I don't see the logic in having tobacco and alcohol legalised when they are both far more dangerous than weed. To quote Bill Hicks, ?I have never seen two people on pot get in a fight because it is fucking IMPOSSIBLE. "Hey, buddy!" "Hey, what?" "Ummmmmmm...." End of argument.?.

Harder stuff like cocaine and speed should be kept illegal though. Those things are highly addictive and will fuck you up eventually.
I agree, plus I don't need another guy hopped up on Crystal Meth calling in airstrikes in my backyard... The US Government has trust issues they think the second they legalize any controlled substance everyone will instantly became a bloodthirsty anarchist... Followed by Communism (because that's so realistic...)
 

WalkingParadox1

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khaimera said:
I love this topic since I work in the addcition field. I for one think that all drugs should be legal. I could write a dissertation on the topic but will only pick out some of my favorite points.

1. Drug use will be prevalent no matter what the laws are, hence the war on drugs will always fail and waste billions of dollars. Its a part of human nature to alter consciousness.
I was interested in the last part of your point. What do you mean by that?
 

Crimsane

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khaimera said:
I love this topic since I work in the addcition field. I for one think that all drugs should be legal. I could write a dissertation on the topic but will only pick out some of my favorite points.

1. Drug use will be prevalent no matter what the laws are, hence the war on drugs will always fail and waste billions of dollars. Its a part of human nature to alter consciousness.

2. People who have issues to begn with will behave badly whether drugs are involved are not, though drugs make it easier to do so.

3. Why isn't illegal to put everything harmful in your body, like drinking bleach.

4. The crime and drug link is based on correlation, not causation, and confounding variables
are responsible for the link.
All fair points, but none of which really make any solid reasons for the actual legalization of all drugs. What's the point? Making it easier to access them seems kind of stupid, to be honest. When's the last time you saw a coke/meth/heroin/whatever addict being a more productive member of society thanks to his habit? Never.
 

Iron Mal

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Crimsane said:
Aye, sorry. Didn't get much sleep, so I missed the rhetorical nature of it.
No worries, happens to us all (I personally didn't take any offence anyway).
 

Echo3Delta

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chiggerwood said:
Is it right for a government to tell individuals what they can or cannot put into their own body's?
"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, privide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our prosperity, do ordain and establish this Constitution of the States of America."

"[...] governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

- Constitution and Declaration of Independence

My point is that we didn't consent to a government so we could do whatever we want; We consent to a government to "form a more perfect union" and "effect our safety and happiness." These are cultural concerns. And our society has made the cultural decision to outlaw drugs, because we think that they are injurious to our civil society.
 

Toaster Hunter

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The issue is not one of doing whatever you want with your body, its also a public safety issue, like if someone stoned drives a car and then kills others. The hope is by banning substances this is less likely to happen. Whether it does or not is another issue.

Personally, some drugs should be legalized, mostly so the government can regulate (quality for safety) as well as the tax revenue that will come as a result.