Poll: Should we boycott EA Products?

[Ickorus]

Sorry. I just find it hilarious that people with Facebook accounts, writing on internet forums and who knows where else suddenly feel like their privacy is being threatened because one more company will have access to data other companies already have.

Valve has your info, FB has your info, Escapist has some of your info, plenty research companies that scan the posts on forums have your info... You don't really have any privacy to start with any more to have it really breached.

The thing that is worrying most people is the scope of data that they're recording and the fact that the way it's worded makes it sound like they're going to be selling your personal information to a Nigerian Prince.

Most businesses record a lot less information and state they will not distribute information outside of their own business without first asking the customer.

Really all EA need to do to smooth the ruffled feathers of most of the people who are angry with them is to change this bit:

We may also share that data with our third party service providers in a form that does not personally identify you.

To something more like this (Which by the way is pretty standard for a privacy policy):

With prior permission from the user we may also share that data with our third party service providers in a form that does not personally identify you.

Funny how a couple of words can change so much.

 

[The-Epicly-Named-Man]

Not really, no. I've made it my personal policy not to buy any game (on any platform) that forces PC gamers to use the service (which means I'm f*cked if ME3 uses it :/), but I'm not going to boycott everything published by EA (although, very little they publish interests me anyway). But I'm still not going to urge others into making a decision they should really come to through their own morals/ beliefs.

 

[Fiz_The_Toaster]

Origin's EULA reads like every other EULA ever. I have no idea why people are taking offense now. You're much, much too late. If you wanted to change anything, you should have protested ToS agreements when they were first introduced.

That's pretty much what I think on the whole matter.

And honestly, boycott? If you don't like it then don't get it, and boycotting this is not gonna do much of anything. It's far too late for it to make much of a difference now, so all we can do now is suck it up and deal with it.

Also, captcha: htsirit her.....you are a dirty dirty captcha.

 

[kouriichi]

Sorry. I just find it hilarious that people with Facebook accounts, writing on internet forums and who knows where else suddenly feel like their privacy is being threatened because one more company will have access to data other companies already have.

Valve has your info, FB has your info, Escapist has some of your info, plenty research companies that scan the posts on forums have your info... You don't really have any privacy to start with any more to have it really breached.

No, you dont get it. They have your open info.

"Congrats, they know my name and where i live".
Thats not what EA is doing. By signing up, you give them the right to monitor your computer. Every program you have on it. Every site you visit. Nearly EVERY piece of info ON YOUR COMPUTER is there's to access.

This isnt, "oh, your phone number, and your middle name, and your area code". This is literally EVERYTHING. "operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware". This includes the information stored for said software, because its part of it. Do you watch anything dirty on the internet? Congrats, EA now knows your every kink, and they have the right to distribute it as they like.

Its not like FB or The Escapist. Your giving them full reign on your private information. Laugh as they monitor everything you do from here on out. Its one step away from having a man standing over your shoulder while you FAP to rule 34.

 

[CrashBang]

I don't even know what DRM is (despite googling it) so I'm even more lost when it comes to this Origin... thingy.
I buy EA games, I play them, I enjoy them and I'll continue to do so. I don't care hoe "evil" they are, they publish Bioware games and I want Bioware games.

The only thing I've ever boycotted (and continue to boycott) is Nestlé products.

 

[kouriichi]

Origin's EULA reads like every other EULA ever. I have no idea why people are taking offense now. You're much, much too late. If you wanted to change anything, you should have protested ToS agreements when they were first introduced.

That's pretty much what I think on the whole matter.

And honestly, boycott? If you don't like it then don't get it, and boycotting this is not gonna do much of anything. It's far too late for it to make much of a difference now, so all we can do now is suck it up and deal with it.

Also, captcha: htsirit her.....you are a dirty dirty captcha.

Its not like every other one out there. :/
You dont give them the right to access EVERY bit of data on your computer.
They can literally sit there, and watch every site you go to. Every message you send. Every picture you have stored.

Every program you access, and every piece of information it stores is all free game for them to monitor. "you agree that EA may collect, use, store and transmit technical and related information that identifies your computer (including the Internet Protocol Address), operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware."

Congrats. They now know everything on your computer, and what you do with it. Your right, boycotting wont do anything. :/ We have to take this straight to the company.

 

[Spygon]

It abit early to start boycotts yet as they have tried to promote their platform by putting there best game coming out at this time exclusively it.Kinda makes sence but feel EA have shot themselves in the foot with it.Then they may have missed worded their EULA have they even responded yet?.

So there is really no reason to yet keeping any eye on what they do next yes boycotting them for an aggressive market tactic and possibly a simple mistake no

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Unless you're TOTALLY SERIOUS about going through with it DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT! If you don't buy EA's products until this policy ends then boycott. Doing this will show you're serious but if you buy battlefield 3 2 weeks later then your boycott means absolutely nothing so think carefully before declaring a boycott.

That's pretty much what I said. If you're going to go declaring a boycott then you have to be prepared to follow through with it you can't just give lip service (or the Internet equivalent there of), otherwise you're just going to end up making your self and gamers as a whole look foolish and destroy ours and your credibility.

 

[Nimcha]

Sorry. I just find it hilarious that people with Facebook accounts, writing on internet forums and who knows where else suddenly feel like their privacy is being threatened because one more company will have access to data other companies already have.

Valve has your info, FB has your info, Escapist has some of your info, plenty research companies that scan the posts on forums have your info... You don't really have any privacy to start with any more to have it really breached.

No, you dont get it. They have your open info.

"Congrats, they know my name and where i live".
Thats not what EA is doing. By signing up, you give them the right to monitor your computer. Every program you have on it. Every site you visit. Nearly EVERY piece of info ON YOUR COMPUTER is there's to access.

This isnt, "oh, your phone number, and your middle name, and your area code". This is literally EVERYTHING. "operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware". This includes the information stored for said software, because its part of it. Do you watch anything dirty on the internet? Congrats, EA now knows your every kink, and they have the right to distribute it as they like.

Its not like FB or The Escapist. Your giving them full reign on your private information. Laugh as they monitor everything you do from here on out. Its one step away from having a man standing over your shoulder while you FAP to rule 34.

And even if that were true, what's the problem? It's not like they can actually do anything with that information.

 

[Fiz_The_Toaster]

Origin's EULA reads like every other EULA ever. I have no idea why people are taking offense now. You're much, much too late. If you wanted to change anything, you should have protested ToS agreements when they were first introduced.

That's pretty much what I think on the whole matter.

And honestly, boycott? If you don't like it then don't get it, and boycotting this is not gonna do much of anything. It's far too late for it to make much of a difference now, so all we can do now is suck it up and deal with it.

Also, captcha: htsirit her.....you are a dirty dirty captcha.

Its not like every other one out there. :/
You dont give them the right to access EVERY bit of data on your computer.
They can literally sit there, and watch every site you go to. Every message you send. Every picture you have stored.

Every program you access, and every piece of information it stores is all free game for them to monitor. "you agree that EA may collect, use, store and transmit technical and related information that identifies your computer (including the Internet Protocol Address), operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware."

Congrats. They now know everything on your computer, and what you do with it. Your right, boycotting wont do anything. :/ We have to take this straight to the company.

For me, I doing a 'wait and see' approach to Origins. I'm not gonna use it until I know everything about and it has been around for a good while. Maybe EA will get rid of the part where Origins looks at everything in your computer and I do think that's really stupid for them to have that part anyways.

I still think it's too little, too late. It appears EA is not gonna get rid of Origins any time soon, and unless some miracle happens and EA ditches it I think it will be around for a while.

However, I think going straight to the company and voice outrage is a lot more productive then boycotting. What I think is going to happen is people will use it anyways when they want to play Battlefield 3, find out what happens, and EA gets enough bad press for this and drop that part of the ToS.

 

[Gigano]

Hardly.

If there's a problem with a particular product/service, boycott that. What does not sell does not stay.

 

[kouriichi]

Sorry. I just find it hilarious that people with Facebook accounts, writing on internet forums and who knows where else suddenly feel like their privacy is being threatened because one more company will have access to data other companies already have.

Valve has your info, FB has your info, Escapist has some of your info, plenty research companies that scan the posts on forums have your info... You don't really have any privacy to start with any more to have it really breached.

No, you dont get it. They have your open info.

"Congrats, they know my name and where i live".
Thats not what EA is doing. By signing up, you give them the right to monitor your computer. Every program you have on it. Every site you visit. Nearly EVERY piece of info ON YOUR COMPUTER is there's to access.

This isnt, "oh, your phone number, and your middle name, and your area code". This is literally EVERYTHING. "operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware". This includes the information stored for said software, because its part of it. Do you watch anything dirty on the internet? Congrats, EA now knows your every kink, and they have the right to distribute it as they like.

Its not like FB or The Escapist. Your giving them full reign on your private information. Laugh as they monitor everything you do from here on out. Its one step away from having a man standing over your shoulder while you FAP to rule 34.

And even if that were true, what's the problem? It's not like they can actually do anything with that information.

Yes they can. Did you even read it? xD
You literally give them the right to distribute it AS THEY PLEASE.
They can do whatever they want as long as you click "i agree", because you give them the right to.

 

[kouriichi]

Origin's EULA reads like every other EULA ever. I have no idea why people are taking offense now. You're much, much too late. If you wanted to change anything, you should have protested ToS agreements when they were first introduced.

That's pretty much what I think on the whole matter.

And honestly, boycott? If you don't like it then don't get it, and boycotting this is not gonna do much of anything. It's far too late for it to make much of a difference now, so all we can do now is suck it up and deal with it.

Also, captcha: htsirit her.....you are a dirty dirty captcha.

Its not like every other one out there. :/
You dont give them the right to access EVERY bit of data on your computer.
They can literally sit there, and watch every site you go to. Every message you send. Every picture you have stored.

Every program you access, and every piece of information it stores is all free game for them to monitor. "you agree that EA may collect, use, store and transmit technical and related information that identifies your computer (including the Internet Protocol Address), operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware."

Congrats. They now know everything on your computer, and what you do with it. Your right, boycotting wont do anything. :/ We have to take this straight to the company.

For me, I doing a 'wait and see' approach to Origins. I'm not gonna use it until I know everything about and it has been around for a good while. Maybe EA will get rid of the part where Origins looks at everything in your computer and I do think that's really stupid for them to have that part anyways.

I still think it's too little, too late. It appears EA is not gonna get rid of Origins any time soon, and unless some miracle happens and EA ditches it I think it will be around for a while.

However, I think going straight to the company and voice outrage is a lot more productive then boycotting. What I think is going to happen is people will use it anyways when they want to play Battlefield 3, find out what happens, and EA gets enough bad press for this and drop that part of the ToS.

Thats the thing. 90% of the people who use it aren't actually going to read the ToS, and will never learn about it.
We have to stop this before it gets to that stage.
if we let months go by, thats an uncountable amount of information being collected from anyone using the service.

 

[Laser Priest]

I don't think that boycotts will do any difference. Truly. There's simply not enough of us to make a dent in the legions of fanboys that will buy it anyway.

What we can do is educate. Let people know that Origin is acting like a virus. Use words like "cracked", "hacked" and other scare words when describing it. Tell your mum and dad not to get you any EA products because they might wreck your computer, show them one of the threads and then let word of mouth spread to the legions.

Origins relies on good will - defeat it with word of mouth.

This. Boycotts won't dent the damn thing.

 

[Nimcha]

Sorry. I just find it hilarious that people with Facebook accounts, writing on internet forums and who knows where else suddenly feel like their privacy is being threatened because one more company will have access to data other companies already have.

Valve has your info, FB has your info, Escapist has some of your info, plenty research companies that scan the posts on forums have your info... You don't really have any privacy to start with any more to have it really breached.

No, you dont get it. They have your open info.

"Congrats, they know my name and where i live".
Thats not what EA is doing. By signing up, you give them the right to monitor your computer. Every program you have on it. Every site you visit. Nearly EVERY piece of info ON YOUR COMPUTER is there's to access.

This isnt, "oh, your phone number, and your middle name, and your area code". This is literally EVERYTHING. "operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware". This includes the information stored for said software, because its part of it. Do you watch anything dirty on the internet? Congrats, EA now knows your every kink, and they have the right to distribute it as they like.

Its not like FB or The Escapist. Your giving them full reign on your private information. Laugh as they monitor everything you do from here on out. Its one step away from having a man standing over your shoulder while you FAP to rule 34.

And even if that were true, what's the problem? It's not like they can actually do anything with that information.

Yes they can. Did you even read it? xD
You literally give them the right to distribute it AS THEY PLEASE.
They can do whatever they want as long as you click "i agree", because you give them the right to.

No not really. They aren't allowed to sell it or use it to send me spam. Or anything like that. A simple TOS doesn't override federal laws.

 

[Sebenko]

I'm going to boycott EA until they start making games I like.

 

[Liudeius]

I don't think I own a single EA game (for this generation).

And considering I own most games considered good on the PS3, I take that to mean that EA doesn't make very many good games.

So I answered yes, definitely, just because it wouldn't affect me at all.

 

[theriddlen]

Activision got on my black list because they essentially were massive dicks to their customers, they murdered a great brand (CoD) and Kotick was being, well, Kotick.

I won't blacklist EA - what they're doing is just being careful. They don't want to get lost in lawsuits because of their new service, so they're just protecting themselves with EULA. It's not the first time they put things like this there, but they never had abused it, and I don't see why would they do that now. You're blowing this out of proportion, people.

 

[AT God]

I wont install origin until their Terms change, I will purchase BF3 and if I cannot play it through origin I will use a work around, DICE still deserves its money for making it, EA doesn't deserve my personal information and will have to learn to play nice or they will lose the PC.