Poll: Should Xbox Silver have Multiplayer?

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WOPR

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Just wondering what people think

I personally do NOT want to pay money just to play online

Computer = free online multiplayer
Wii = Free online multiplayer
PS3 = Free online multiplayer

so why should we have to pay for Xbox Gold for multiplayer?

I think they should do what the PS3 did and make Gold members get beta's and demos and stuff like that much sooner then the general public

but I don't think we should have to PAY MONEY to PLAY ONLINE
 

TerribleAssassin

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Yeah, considering quite a lot of people fork out extra money for that £40 wireless adapter, then having to pay more for online is ridculous.
 
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I was thinking about this the other day actually.

I doubt it will happen, but I think old titles should be made free for multiplayer, games like Shadowrun, Halo 3, etc.

This would allow people to enjoy titles that would encourage them to buy the updated titles of the series (Reach, Black Ops etc) and also to buy Gold so they can play the newer titles online.

It's not perfect but I like it.
 

WOPR

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TerribleAssassin said:
Yeah, considering quite a lot of people fork out extra money for that £40 wireless adapter, then having to pay more for online is ridculous.
I should note that the Slim comes with wireless

but what I'm getting at is you already PAY for the internet service (usually) so why should you pay extra?

this isn't WoW where it costs millions to keep the servers up per year
this is Xbox, where servers are user hosted!
 

lostzombies.com

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NO, that's what Gold is for.

In life you get what you pay for.

Paying for an online service = tech support, regular updates, improving service, server upkeep etc


Imagine if WOW was free to play, no updates, no fixes of bugs, no online support, no large servers, no dedicated servers (if there was they would be small and laggy/unstable) etc etc..


Sorry but I have both a PS3 and 360. XBox live is far, far better that PS online. There is simply no comparison in terms of quality of service.

It's why in the real world you don't hear people complaining about their rolls royce/bentley but talk to someone with a trebant/skoda and they can give you a list of faults.
 

WOPR

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In WoW you're paying for the server cost which is millions a year

Xbox is user hosted meaning it costs them nothing

and as for "you get what you pay for"

I paid for the console, I pay for the internet, I pay for the games
that SHOULD be enough

but I guess you have enough disposable income to line the millionairs pockets so get back to me when you learn the value of money and what the difference between user hosting (Xbox) and server hosting (WoW) is

The bug fixes and updates are free
everything else has them for free (INCLUDING COMPUTER)
so what makes Xbox so special?
 

L4hlborg

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As long as they don't add separate subscription fees to games, I'm ok with it. I mean it's a pretty good service and I don't really regret paying for it.
 

The Cheezy One

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Older titles, yes, but Live gets a good rep for its support, probably because it charges that much. I would rather pay that much (which works out as barely anything if you play enough) and get good support
 

Krantos

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lostzombies.com said:
NO, that's what Gold is for.

In life you get what you pay for.

Paying for an online service = tech support, regular updates, improving service, server upkeep etc


Imagine if WOW was free to play, no updates, no fixes of bugs, no online support, no large servers, no dedicated servers (if there was they would be small and laggy/unstable) etc etc..


Sorry but I have both a PS3 and 360. XBox live is far, far better that PS online. There is simply no comparison in terms of quality of service.

It's why in the real world you don't hear people complaining about their rolls royce/bentley but talk to someone with a trebant/skoda and they can give you a list of faults.
This.

There really would be no point to Gold if Silver could play MP. I've had the service for 4+ years now, and I think it's worth it. Also, it's only, what, $70 a year now? That's less than $6 a month.

Yes we pay for internet, but XBL isn't a service of your ISP. You still have to pay to use that service, same as other services you get over the internet.

And the reason that XBL is paid and not PSN and the Wii thing is, as lostzombies said, quality of service. XBL, despite being mostly occupied by howler monkeys, is considerably more functional and high quality than the others.

If there's one thing that is developing that annoys me, it's the growing belief that everything should be free. People work to produce this stuff. Sure some stuff is intended to be free, but most services and products are supposed to be purchased. That's how economics works.
 

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lostzombies.com said:
NO, that's what Gold is for.

In life you get what you pay for.

Paying for an online service = tech support, regular updates, improving service, server upkeep etc


Imagine if WOW was free to play, no updates, no fixes of bugs, no online support, no large servers, no dedicated servers (if there was they would be small and laggy/unstable) etc etc..


Sorry but I have both a PS3 and 360. XBox live is far, far better that PS online. There is simply no comparison in terms of quality of service.

It's why in the real world you don't hear people complaining about their rolls royce/bentley but talk to someone with a trebant/skoda and they can give you a list of faults.
Actually Skoda has competely turned it reputation around and now regulary tops car polls for reliability while Rolls Royce recently had to commission a recall of some of its cars owing to faulty clutches or somesuch.
 

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Of course most people are going to say it should have multiplayer. $200 for the 360, $40 for the wireless adapter, $40 for the router, and $80 for a year of Live. I'm regretting my purchase of a 360 over a PS3 at this point, I really am.
 

WOPR

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Krantos said:
lostzombies.com said:
NO, that's what Gold is for.

In life you get what you pay for.

Paying for an online service = tech support, regular updates, improving service, server upkeep etc


Imagine if WOW was free to play, no updates, no fixes of bugs, no online support, no large servers, no dedicated servers (if there was they would be small and laggy/unstable) etc etc..


Sorry but I have both a PS3 and 360. XBox live is far, far better that PS online. There is simply no comparison in terms of quality of service.

It's why in the real world you don't hear people complaining about their rolls royce/bentley but talk to someone with a trebant/skoda and they can give you a list of faults.
This.

There really would be no point to Gold if Silver could play MP. I've had the service for 4+ years now, and I think it's worth it. Also, it's only, what, $70 a year now? That's less than $6 a month.

Yes we pay for internet, but XBL isn't a service of your ISP. You still have to pay to use that service, same as other services you get over the internet.

And the reason that XBL is paid and not PSN and the Wii thing is, as lostzombies said, quality of service. XBL, despite being mostly occupied by howler monkeys, is considerably more functional and high quality than the others.

If there's one thing that is developing that annoys me, it's the growing belief that everything should be free. People work to produce this stuff. Sure some stuff is intended to be free, but most services and products are supposed to be purchased. That's how economics works.
In all honesty
the PS3 (with free online) had BETTER online
(for me at least)

no the PS3 was not mine I just borrowed it but in all honesty people this is my experience with online services

1) COMPUTER
2) PS3
3) Xbox Gold
4) Wii
5) Xbox Silver
 

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lostzombies.com said:
NO, that's what Gold is for.

In life you get what you pay for.

Paying for an online service = tech support, regular updates, improving service, server upkeep etc
Steam is free and does all of that and more - much of it better, too.

OT: Yes, of course. I've bought the game, I see no reason why I shouldn't be able to play the other half of it.
 

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chronobreak said:
Of course most people are going to say it should have multiplayer. $200 for the 360, $40 for the wireless adapter, $40 for the router, and $80 for a year of Live. I'm regretting my purchase of a 360 over a PS3 at this point, I really am.
it's $300 for the system not $200 (unless you got the "arcade" version which has no hard drive)

I personally like the 360, but that's because I hate most online gaming
and all the online games I want are only/better on the computer (*cough* TF2 *cough*)

Plus, here at least, the 360 was about $200 less then the PS3
 

WOPR

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Woodsey said:
lostzombies.com said:
NO, that's what Gold is for.

In life you get what you pay for.

Paying for an online service = tech support, regular updates, improving service, server upkeep etc
Steam is free and does all of that and more - much of it better, too.

OT: Yes, of course. I've bought the game, I see no reason why I shouldn't be able to play the other half of it.
well steam does have the fee of "you buy one of their games" but considering that their games run as low as $1 I don't see the problem haha!

EDIT: they even have some free ones (Alien Swarm, Mightier, Moonbase Alpha)
 

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WOPR said:
In all honesty
the PS3 (with free online) had BETTER online
(for me at least)

no the PS3 was not mine I just borrowed it but in all honesty people this is my experience with online services

1) COMPUTER
2) PS3
3) Xbox Gold
4) Wii
5) Xbox Silver
To be honest, I don't know personally. I have friends who are borderline PS3 fan-boys, but they still hate PSN and prefer XBL. I've never tried it, so i was just basing my argument on their feedback.

Perhaps they've just had bad experiences, or maybe you've been lucky. IDK.
 

lostzombies.com

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Woodsey said:
lostzombies.com said:
NO, that's what Gold is for.

In life you get what you pay for.

Paying for an online service = tech support, regular updates, improving service, server upkeep etc
Steam is free and does all of that and more - much of it better, too.

OT: Yes, of course. I've bought the game, I see no reason why I shouldn't be able to play the other half of it.
My only experience with steam was trying to get the latest total war, the whole thing crashed and was down for over 24 hours.

XBox live has never crashed out for me when a game/update has been released in nearly 6 years of use.

Steam doesnt also include video chat, 8 person party chat either as far as I know.