So your question is "should it be legal to kill yourself?"
I think a better question would be "Who's going arrest you when you're dead?"
I think a better question would be "Who's going arrest you when you're dead?"
Poll: Should you be allowed to kill yourself when you reach 40?
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I'm going to start off by saying that yes, I think if someone wants to die, it's their life, if they don't want it, fine, let's get our hands on some of them lovely organs. Although, there are things like societal and social obligations that one could probably bring up against it.
Although I would like to question your mentally ill statement. I would ask how you would define mentally ill. I'm sure it could be argued that wanting to die, and I don't just mean having some thoughts about it, I mean actually thinking 'It is time for me to die, definitely' could be a clear sign of someone not being of sound mind.
Also, I'd like to add a rule, if you do decide it's death time, you have to register with some suicide bureau and wait a month. Plenty of time to get your affairs in order, explain to loved ones why and make sure you're damned certain you want to die. Can't have people dropping off at random or on a whim. (of course, there's plenty of ways for them to do it whenever they feel, put I'm operating on ideals here).
Although I would like to question your mentally ill statement. I would ask how you would define mentally ill. I'm sure it could be argued that wanting to die, and I don't just mean having some thoughts about it, I mean actually thinking 'It is time for me to die, definitely' could be a clear sign of someone not being of sound mind.
Also, I'd like to add a rule, if you do decide it's death time, you have to register with some suicide bureau and wait a month. Plenty of time to get your affairs in order, explain to loved ones why and make sure you're damned certain you want to die. Can't have people dropping off at random or on a whim. (of course, there's plenty of ways for them to do it whenever they feel, put I'm operating on ideals here).
People are always allowed to kill themselves, I don't get this whole keeping people alive against their will thing. Yeah, they might get better with your help but they wanted to die and who the fuck are you to deny them that?
Point being people should always have the option of killing themselves.
Point being people should always have the option of killing themselves.
...Well, yes you should be allowed to, because of freedom and so forth. However, this shouldn't be a thing.
As Captcha says, "bacon & eggs".
As Captcha says, "bacon & eggs".
No- a lot of people find themselves suffering from depression at 40; it's just one of those ages. "I can't believe I'm 40 my life is over", etc. If suicide was considered a completely normal thing to do at this age? We'd get a lot more people, otherwise perfectly capable of living happily for many years to come, taking that plunge.
I dislike the idea of suicide, anyway- most people have family, or friends, and to just up and kill yourself is, frankly, incredibly selfish. Obviously, there are circumstances in which I can completely understand it, but "Middle Aged" isn't one of them.
Other ages, you say? I have less of a problem with people doing this at, say, 70+. Quality of life has decreased dramatically by then, and it'd be easier for family to accept your death.
I dislike the idea of suicide, anyway- most people have family, or friends, and to just up and kill yourself is, frankly, incredibly selfish. Obviously, there are circumstances in which I can completely understand it, but "Middle Aged" isn't one of them.
Other ages, you say? I have less of a problem with people doing this at, say, 70+. Quality of life has decreased dramatically by then, and it'd be easier for family to accept your death.
Yes - While 40 is an arbitrary age, I feel that suicide should not be a crime in our society. There are people with terminal illnesses who'd rather be put down then suffer until the end. I'm completely on board with suicide along those lines.
Random Joe of good health gets laid off at 40, becomes depressed that they can no longer live at an upper-middle class lifestyle and wants to off himself. A situation like that doesn't sit so well with me.
Random Joe of good health gets laid off at 40, becomes depressed that they can no longer live at an upper-middle class lifestyle and wants to off himself. A situation like that doesn't sit so well with me.
It's not your choice to make. It's not anyone's choice to make. If a person of any age, any gender, any creed wishes to do something to themselves then they should be allowed to, even if what they want to do is end their own life.
Also, your idea of regulations, no offense, but did you really think about it? If someone wants to off themselves they're going to off themselves, they're not going to wait a year or two for government approval.
Having said that though, do I think that we should stigmatize suicide as something that shouldn't be done? Yes, though people should be allowed to it doesn't mean it should be encouraged.
Something that has to be kept in mind; if a person really wants to kill themselves then they WILL kill themselves, the laws against it (assisted suicide and the like) are really just robbing those who plan to go through with it of some final moments with their family and friends - something which might talk them out of it anyway.
I personally find suicide weak, but if someone desired it then they should be allowed to.
Also, your idea of regulations, no offense, but did you really think about it? If someone wants to off themselves they're going to off themselves, they're not going to wait a year or two for government approval.
Having said that though, do I think that we should stigmatize suicide as something that shouldn't be done? Yes, though people should be allowed to it doesn't mean it should be encouraged.
Something that has to be kept in mind; if a person really wants to kill themselves then they WILL kill themselves, the laws against it (assisted suicide and the like) are really just robbing those who plan to go through with it of some final moments with their family and friends - something which might talk them out of it anyway.
I personally find suicide weak, but if someone desired it then they should be allowed to.
I dont think being forty or not has anything to do with it really. I mean, suicide isnt really illegal and if it is you cant really be charged and tried for it. So you can kill yosurself whenever you want, cause really, whats someone going to do after the fact?
As another poster said one should be legally allowed to commit suicide despite the age. If one is bored of life and want to commit suicide to end the boredom then it's their choice. I believe the same thing despite the reason for suicide, including illness. Well, as long as you don't endanger anyone else.
Time is relative, the older you get, the less long time feels for your brain. By the time you are 200 you would barely remember the days as they passed. There is always a cause to strive for, and if you have the money, you can learn anything you want. You can learn to make more to DO anything you want as well. Time is the greatest limiting factor to many things, if you can do anything without caring how long it takes you, you can do almost anything. And at such an advanced point in medical science, they would probably have some cool ways to get you high as hell without negative health effects.Esotera said:
That said, people should still have the choice, but it is a stupid choice.
What's this 'should be allowed' business? You can kill yourself whenever you want for whichever cocky reason you can come up with at the time. It's not legal or illegal to do so. You can't get a fine for killing yourself, or end up in jail. Suicide does not beget age.
That and, if anything, many are actually being worked harder than before. People are dieing of old age and terminal illness regretting that they worked so much; it's the most common thing they talk about in the last two weeks of life. http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2012/02/03/almost-everyone-on-their-death-bed-regrets-working-too-much/
That and, if anything, many are actually being worked harder than before. People are dieing of old age and terminal illness regretting that they worked so much; it's the most common thing they talk about in the last two weeks of life. http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2012/02/03/almost-everyone-on-their-death-bed-regrets-working-too-much/
40 seems an arbitrary age. Suicide is far more related to a persons mind set and whether they want to continue living, something not determined by age.
Perhaps a person should be allowed to apply for a suicide permit. Their case will be evaluated on the basis of whether they would be leaving children or other family members behind and the impact their death will have on others. If they pass, they will be permitted to be euthanised in a humane and painless manner.
Of course, I'm aware this is a morbid and ridiculous, and that no one in the position to be considering suicide would be prepared to go through a lengthy procedure before they're able to do so. Also, what's to stop people just killing themselves as they do now, it's not like they get in trouble for it. Some people who attempt suicide are kept a close eye on them or put in a mental health ward, but this is to help them get past what it is that is making them feel suicidal in the first place, not as a punishment.
Perhaps a person should be allowed to apply for a suicide permit. Their case will be evaluated on the basis of whether they would be leaving children or other family members behind and the impact their death will have on others. If they pass, they will be permitted to be euthanised in a humane and painless manner.
Of course, I'm aware this is a morbid and ridiculous, and that no one in the position to be considering suicide would be prepared to go through a lengthy procedure before they're able to do so. Also, what's to stop people just killing themselves as they do now, it's not like they get in trouble for it. Some people who attempt suicide are kept a close eye on them or put in a mental health ward, but this is to help them get past what it is that is making them feel suicidal in the first place, not as a punishment.
Regardless of if you want it or not, life is a gift. In my personal beliefs, we did ask for life. Perhaps we were unaware of the consequences of this choice(be careful what you wish for, you might just get it).bojackx said:
I don't know about you, but if I gave someone something as amazing as the gift of life and they destroyed it because they didn't like it, I'd be more than a little insulted.
I vacillate a lot in my image of God and how wrathful or merciful he is(I'm crazy, you understand), but I'd imagine that someone killing their self because they are truly miserable with no way out wouldn't be on the same level as killing someone else. I don't think it's a good thing or an acceptable thing, however. Hope is what you should strive for, even in the blackest of nights.
I love your avatar. <3Blackmagic1515 said:
On topic, if someone wants to end their own life, who am I to stop them? It's tragic, and in most situations there *are* other options, but ultimately...It's that person's life and only they know the complete picture. Who else has any say?
Why should there be an age limit past the age of adulthood? If you don't want to live when you hit 18 you shouldn't be forced to, let alone 40.
