Poll: Skyrim- Did you kill Paarthurnax?

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Proverbial Jon

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Fawxy said:
Never even considered killing him.

As soon as Delphine said that I Fus Roh Dah'd her off the cliff face she was standing on.

Getting between me and my dragon buddies... who the hell are you?
Damn, wish I'd thought of that! Then again, my character isn't that vengeful. If Delphine had stood in the way of my dragon-based friendship with ol' Parthy more actively, I would have Fus Ro Dah'd the shit out of her.

OT: The Blades storyline really pissed me off.

Everything is fine right up until we find Alduin's Wall and then Delphine announces that Paarthurnax must die. Fine, that makes sense, he is a dragon after all. But he is a friendly dragon and he's actually been helpful. Of course ignoring Delphine's order makes her and Esbern completely unsociable and they won't talk about anything else until I agree to do it. Needless to say, I ignore them.

But even after I have entered Sovngarde itself and slayed Alduin himself, they still hold a grudge. I have travelled to the afterlife and slain the bloody World Eater, can't you cut me some slack?

Seriously. I don't mind choices like this but there isn't an alternative quest line, it all just kind of ends. It would have been nice to work with Paarthurnax once I spared him. But by cutting off the Blades like that I felt as if I was missing out on a whole load of content.
 

Thyunda

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Proverbial Jon said:
Fawxy said:
Never even considered killing him.

As soon as Delphine said that I Fus Roh Dah'd her off the cliff face she was standing on.

Getting between me and my dragon buddies... who the hell are you?
Damn, wish I'd thought of that! Then again, my character isn't that vengeful. If Delphine had stood in the way of my dragon-based friendship with ol' Parthy more actively, I would have Fus Ro Dah'd the shit out of her.

OT: The Blades storyline really pissed me off.

Everything is fine right up until we find Alduin's Wall and then Delphine announces that Paarthurnax must die. Fine, that makes sense, he is a dragon after all. But he is a friendly dragon and he's actually been helpful. Of course ignoring Delphine's order makes her and Esbern completely unsociable and they won't talk about anything else until I agree to do it. Needless to say, I ignore them.

But even after I have entered Sovngarde itself and slayed Alduin himself, they still hold a grudge. I have travelled to the afterlife and slain the bloody World Eater, can't you cut me some slack?

Seriously. I don't mind choices like this but there isn't an alternative quest line, it all just kind of ends. It would have been nice to work with Paarthurnax once I spared him. But by cutting off the Blades like that I felt as if I was missing out on a whole load of content.
I spent ages refusing to kill him. I didn't care for his past crimes. He'd redeemed himself twice over - once when he betrayed Alduin in the first place, and again when he actively fought with the World Eater when I battled him atop the Throat of the World.

In fact, the only reason I killed Paarthurnax is because I was looking for a challenge. I've reached a stage in the game where I'm practically unkillable, and wander Skyrim looking for an opponent to call my equal. I hoped Paarthurnax would be such an opponent.

Nope. Turns out he really is just a frail old dragon. I felt so bad about killing him afterwards...and the Blades are just such arsewipes.
 

Paul

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Thyunda said:
Nope. Turns out he really is just a frail old dragon. I felt so bad about killing him afterwards...and the Blades are just such arsewipes.
Is Paarthurnax actually weak? I just wander round in the game at the moment having a jolly time doing minor quests, and I'm curious if he's actually weak. By this point I already knew killing Paarthurnax was an option though since I'd seen it on the internet (though if I hadn't I imagine this thread title would have given me a fair idea). Considering my main threat at the moment comes in the form of Blood Dragons, is Paarthurnax even comparable? I'm imagining he'd be really weak so killing him would be a deliberate anti-climax.
 

Nomanslander

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Ummmm? Not that it concerns me since I've beaten the game but....SPOILER! HELLO??

This whole thread even before clicking on it spoils a big moment in the game.
 
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Lots of spoilers by the way for people who have not finished certain aspects of the game so click at your peril. Title could have been more tactfully written.
No I think the Blades were short sighted cunts with nothing but an old spiteful vendetta for wanting to kill Paarthurnax. It isn't like he trains and makes powerful the one who can ultimately destroy him, betrays his evil brother on multiple occasions and then decides to spread his particular peaceful philosophy to all remaining dragons. Also he kinda keeps the Greybeards working by teaching them.
 

Thyunda

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Paul said:
Thyunda said:
Nope. Turns out he really is just a frail old dragon. I felt so bad about killing him afterwards...and the Blades are just such arsewipes.
Is Paarthurnax actually weak? I just wander round in the game at the moment having a jolly time doing minor quests, and I'm curious if he's actually weak. By this point I already knew killing Paarthurnax was an option though since I'd seen it on the internet (though if I hadn't I imagine this thread title would have given me a fair idea). Considering my main threat at the moment comes in the form of Blood Dragons, is Paarthurnax even comparable? I'm imagining he'd be really weak so killing him would be a deliberate anti-climax.
Hmm. I don't know about that. At my stage in the game, with my abilities, it takes a fairly lucky Ancient Dragon to take me down. Given that it took one double-power-attack with dual Daedric swords to kill him, I'd say he's equal to anything from a regular dragon to a frost dragon. That double power attack is ridiculously overpowered.
 

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Danceofmasks said:
Dragons can only ever be hermits until they eventually stop being hermits.
Some quotes sound better on their own. I like this one.

[sup]I have no actual input for this conversation[/sup]
 

Whateveralot

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Spoiler much...

Ah well, it's not such a big and amazing twist, but i'd rather not have known this. May I ask of OP to change the title a bit + adding appropriate spoiler tags to the OP, so other players won't be harmed by this?
 

AndyFromMonday

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Whenever I think of that old geezer I can't help but remember what Odahviing said at the end of the game if you spared Paarthurnax. He might have been Alduin's right hand but he has a point.

The only difference I can see between Alduin and Paarthurnax is that Paarthurnax is way more manipulative and subtle in his actions which would make sense giving that he's the weaker of the two and he could have never had achieved dominance without manipulating mortals.
 

Paul

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Thyunda said:
Given that it took one double-power-attack with dual Daedric swords to kill him, I'd say he's equal to anything from a regular dragon to a frost dragon. That double power attack is ridiculously overpowered.
Well, I guess it's time for me to work up my Crafting a little bit more since I never craft much. I basically use Mehrunes' Razor as my mainstay of the moment. It's cool looking and while it doesn't do much damage I'm trying to increase my sneaking ability so it's nice to have a sweet looking dagger to clear out bandit camps.
 

AntiChri5

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I see no reason to kill Paarthunax. He is the only "reformist" dragon we know of, with him dead the only option is to wipe out all dragons everywhere. The Dovahkiin would not be able to track them all down, so many would have to be killed by non dragonborn.

But, since it is hinted that Alduin may eventually return even after you kill him those dragons killed by nondragonborn will simply be revived, and there will be no friendly dragons to consume their souls.

If Parth is left alive, and turns evil, nondragonborn can kill him. It might take some doing but it can be done. There is no chance that Alduin will revive him, since Parth has betrayed Alduin twice now. But, if Parth doesn't turn evil (like he has proven he can do by thousands of years of pacifism) then his peaceful dragons can help mankind if Alduin returns, because only a dragon (or Dragonborn) can permanently killl another dragon. Parth and his students can take out Alduins followers. There is no reason to kill him.

Besides, killing Paarthunax would be killing a massive part of Nord culture. It was he who first taught humans the Thuum.
 

DanielBrown

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Nope. I thought he was awesome, while the Blades were kind of... douches. So I let him live.
 

AntiChri5

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AndyFromMonday said:
Whenever I think of that old geezer I can't help but remember what Odahviing said at the end of the game if you spared Paarthurnax. He might have been Alduin's right hand but he has a point.

The only difference I can see between Alduin and Paarthurnax is that Paarthurnax is way more manipulative and subtle in his actions which would make sense giving that he's the weaker of the two and he could have never had achieved dominance without manipulating mortals.
How is Paarthunax manipulative? He says to your face that the Blades are right to want him dead, that you shouldn't trust him and that he commited horrible crimes.

He offers assistance in every way he can and never tries to harm a person. Without him Alduin could never have been defeated.
 

Lev The Red

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hmmm... kill the one dragon that is truly friendly, that helped me master shouting, and that aided me in the quest to keep his kind from enslaving all of mankind all because some assholes i only talked to once asked me to?

thats a real toughie. *sarcasm*
 

KrossBillNye

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Their demand for his death made me feel the same way on how you start off the game.

The minute they said he needed to die I refused to kill him. Why should he need to die? Because YOU say so? I just spent most of my time trying to save this world, being attacked by all manner of things and this one dragon that you demand its life to be taken was one of the few forces that actually helped me and you want him dead because of past events? Pffffft.

I believe that he genuinely meant it when he said that he is trying to atone for his sins in the past I gave him that chance. Why should his past actions reflect him today? Don't judge a book by its cover! I felt sorry for Paarthurnax.

So I attacked the Blades.

And I was upset that I could not kill them.
 

MurderousToaster

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Nomanslander said:
Ummmm? Not that it concerns me since I've beaten the game but....SPOILER! HELLO??

This whole thread even before clicking on it spoils a big moment in the game.
"Did you kill (X)?" in a game where you can kill damn near any X you want is hardly a spoiler.