Poll: Sleep Debt - Possible Health Risk - Do you get enough?

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Rednog

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Definitely not getting enough sleep 4-5 hours on a good night, none on a bad. And considering it is coupled with stress I know I'm definitely eating years off my life. I need a change of lifestyle, but I really have little alternative so I pretty much have to live with it and take a day off when I get chest pains.
 

Smertnik

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There's also a theory stating that you only need to sleep through the REM phases to function, hence the Everyman and Uberman sleep patterns.
 

badgersprite

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I'm actually going to bed right now. Quarter to nine and I'm tired. Getting up early tomorrow though so it evens out.
 

Smooth Operator

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Tried that whole "I r iron man, sleep when I'm dead" thing and it does work out for a while but it comes back to bite you in the ass, problem is you can't make up for lost sleep so it takes a while for the body to normalize and regenerate again.

Or you can just keep pushing it and die young.
On a purely mechanical level you can't hold out a 4 hour pace, our entire body works on a work - rest/regenerate cycle, that is why we can live for so long.
If you halve your sleeping / regenerating period your body will start to deteriorate, sure it wont become immediately apparent but you will be walking around with increasingly shoddier build quality, effectively shaving years off your lifespan, not to mention the strain on your sanity.
 

luclin92

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i sleep about 6hours Monday to Friday then if im not doing anything Saturday ill sleep s long as i can.
 

Aesir23

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My body seems to be...odd when it comes to sleep. If I go to bed any time before 2:30 am I can only hope to get 3 hours of sleep at most without the aid of sleeping pills, and even then I'm waking up every hour. After 2:30 am, I generally sleep around 5-6 hours. If I go to bed before 2:30 am, manage to fall asleep and stay asleep (usually with the help of a sleeping pill or two) then my body will submit me to anywhere from 10 to 14 hours of sleep depending on how long I've been doing the 'sleep after 2:30' bit.

When that happens though, my body refuses to sleep the next night and I'm usually awake for 36 hours as a result. On top of that, I have some type of insomnia (I forget which kind, it could just be normal insomnia) and it takes me a long time to fall asleep, usually one hour at best but there have been times where I'll be laying awake for six hours.
 

tahrey

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I've been running on sleep fumes for many years, I just can't hack the modern world. I'ma go live on an island where all I have to do all day is pick berries off trees I think.

WoW doesn't feature in my life, if it did I wouldn't sleep at all. As it is, the actual amount varies between 2.5 and 10 hours depending whether i have to get up for work and when my body simply decides to call it quits.

Last night was about 6 1/2, I dozed off on the sofa and somehow jolted awake two minutes before my phone alarm went off (and five before the main alarm clock in the bedroom). Whacked it all on snooze and got 15 minutes actually in bed :-/
 

Furious Styles

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Depends, some nights its six, but if I have the time (weekends, days when I don't have classes til late) I usually sleep for nine hours.

But, I think I used to when i needed to be up at half seven every day. i've had bags under my eyes since I was 10 and they'll never go away, I used to get no more than seven hours per night so it used to be bad but its much better now.
 

hypovolemia

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Mr.K. said:
On a purely mechanical level you can't hold out a 4 hour pace, our entire body works on a work - rest/regenerate cycle, that is why we can live for so long.
If you halve your sleeping / regenerating period your body will start to deteriorate, sure it wont become immediately apparent but you will be walking around with increasingly shoddier build quality, effectively shaving years off your lifespan, not to mention the strain on your sanity.
The thing is nobody knows if it actually works like that. There is only one way to find out: You make a couple of groups consisting of randomly assigned people and have every group sleep a different amount of time per day. There are countless practical problems with a study like that and it's unethical to boot. After all, how can you make someone sleep 4 hours every day when you are convinced that it will cost that person 20 years of his lifespan?
The next best thing are correlational studies that would have to control pretty much everything in your life to see if the amount of sleep has any effect on your health. And that sounds like a lot of fun.
 

The Rockerfly

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I have to take medication for 6 hours of sleep
Otherwise I get about 3 hours with an extreme of 5 hours but I feel fine
 

Smooth Operator

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hypovolemia said:
Mr.K. said:
On a purely mechanical level you can't hold out a 4 hour pace, our entire body works on a work - rest/regenerate cycle, that is why we can live for so long.
If you halve your sleeping / regenerating period your body will start to deteriorate, sure it wont become immediately apparent but you will be walking around with increasingly shoddier build quality, effectively shaving years off your lifespan, not to mention the strain on your sanity.
The thing is nobody knows if it actually works like that. There is only one way to find out: You make a couple of groups consisting of randomly assigned people and have every group sleep a different amount of time per day. There are countless practical problems with a study like that and it's unethical to boot. After all, how can you make someone sleep 4 hours every day when you are convinced that it will cost that person 20 years of his lifespan?
The next best thing are correlational studies that would have to control pretty much everything in your life to see if the amount of sleep has any effect on your health. And that sounds like a lot of fun.
You do bring up a very interesting point, a 90 year old man that had regular 8 hour sleep wasted 30 years sleeping(1/3 wasted), the same man would only waste 15 years with 4 hour cycles(1/6 wasted).
But he most likely wouldn't make it to 90, then again in our last decades we become rather useless, so the 8 hour man has a long "wastefull" life while the 4 hour man has a short "active" one.

The work / regeneration cycle is not in question, the part we don't know are the extremes.
Howmuch time do we actually need for sleeping, can it be varied depending on our exhaustion, howmuch of the sleep is actually useful and howmuch is wasted on transitions in sleep cycle.

Those studies are useless data unless you fully control the environment, with humans that just isn't doable, but it's worth a shot...

Who wants to earn $5 ?
 

VaudevillianVeteran

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...Oddly, I used to get the majority of those symptoms when I was sleep deprived... But, that was a long time ago now, I get between 8-11 hours a day really, so yeah, healthy.
 

Togs

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most nights I get 9 hours, which of course is gonna change when i leave uni in a month :(
 

smithy_2045

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I have no consistency in my sleep patterns. It's so bad that averaging it would be a total misrepresentation of how good it is.
 

TimeLord

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I get less than 6 hours sleep most days due to my nightshirt job. I can attest to the short temper side effect!
 
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I usually sleep five hours or less a night, but once or twice I week I will pick a night to get no sleep at all. My five A.M. run always wakes me up anyway.
 

instantbenz

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it's of course different from person to person, but if I sleep too much I get migraines. so I limit myself to 8 or less ... it's very rare that I get 9 hours [once every quarter].
 

Hashime

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I was a zombie for about 5 months. Found out it was sleep apnea (not suspected as I am not fat, and don't drink or smoke). I feel much better now that my sleep is restful. I can tell you that not sleeping enough is probably the largest contributor to low grades in university for those who do not drink / do drugs. I lost 5 months and will have to spend another 16k to re-do first year. Not fun.