6th And Silver said:
Abandon4093 said:
Yeah, see, you're saying a lot of things, but you're not backing any of them with anything other then the word "statistically". Of course, I'm not trying to say that everything in your post was untrue, I agree with plenty of it. I obviously won't deny that people will kill under extreme circumstances, especially if their lives depend on it. But I have to question your statement that "Statistically, people will murder based on the prospect of social gain." (paraphrasing) If you can show me that statistic, then great. I'll shut up. But until then, my response to that is "Statistically, people only commit murder when they feel they have no other option available to them."
In 2010 the US recorded 41.4% of the total robberies that year involved firearms.
http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2011/september/crime_091911/crime_091911
And in 1998 8.7% of the total murders in the US occurred during robberies.
http://www.allcountries.org/uscensus/333_murder_victims_circumstances_and_weapons_used.html
I'm sure with some proper searching you could find a whole catalogue of these records and make an accurate estimation of how many people are murdered each year during robberies, muggings etc etc.
But the point is that people murder over spare change and household possessions. When you start dealing with truly life altering amounts of money. Like say 5-mil, people who would otherwise not have committed even a petty crime, may actually kill.
Bear in mind, that in robberies the objective isn't to kill someone. It's too intimidate, making it easier to take their possessions. So there will be a lot of outstanding factors in the percentage of murders during robberies that you'd have to take into consideration.
But when you tell someone that they have to kill a person for a life changing amount of money. Depending on their socio-economic standing, you'd probably find a higher amount of people willing to do it. Especially if the risk factor is removed.