Poll: So... Diablo 3 or Torchlight 2?

[Rooster Cogburn]

I understand where you are coming from. They need to nerf some stuff I'm pretty much immortal as a DEMON HUNTER on act 3. My gear is so OP I could probably PVP with a level 40 (i'm 25) There are plenty of problems but nothing that has bothered me. I ran into my first glitch an hour ago and I can't attack these stupid birds because they attack and then fly up where you cant hit them. But you can't even hit them when they come down to attack its pretty weird we eventually had like 20 of these birds following us around and they were pretty much one hitting one

Yea, that might get boring. I understand why they organized the difficulty levels the way they did, though. Titan Quest made you unlock the difficulties in order, too, and suffered the same problems. It makes sense to pad out a game people expect to be playing for a long time, and when balancing difficulty is complicated by character progression. Somehow you have to provide something for idiots at level 1 and pros at level 99, and everything in between. Not easy. You see, I'm a sad, hateful man, but I'm not indiscriminate lol.

thank you. you did a much better job explaining this to that guy then I did, i just hope he actually reads it.

I did. I still don't share yours and his point of view on it. But I don't like continuing an argument unnecessarily, we both presented our points on the matter, and I still hold my view and him his.

I can respect that. After all, we are in pretty subjective territory. What ruins my experience may not impact yours in any appreciable way. I almost expect to wind up in a shouting match any time I jump in like that, so it's nice that we can settle this amicably lol.

I won't be picking up Torchlight 2 until someone mods out identify and town portal scrolls.

So you'll be a day one purchase? hehe =)

 

[Norrdicus]

Yea, I started on vet thinking I was 10 men. Didn't pan out.

Hahah.

Nah, it's not so bad. You just need to know exactly what skills are the best for your playstyle. I fudged up by putting like 20 points in dexterity for my engineer. I should have just tanked out his vitality and strength with the odd point in focus to keep the mana up.

Another thing I like about Torchlight 2 is how most attributes tend to be worth a point investment or two. Of course, vitality is still boss if you want to live.

Glad I played the beta first though. I know exactly what I'm going to do when the full game unlocks. And with 3 other mates playing it as the 3 other classes. I think we'll walk it on vet. Especially seeing as my engie build is build around high DPS on single targets and buffing teamates with shields and healthbots.

I hope the guy playing as a mage ups a lot of AoE spells.

Outlander is much more capable as an AoE character than I first imagined, either crowd control or damage. My outlander actually had trouble killing single bosses quickly if not chugging mana potions. You can also make a "Hammerdin" out of the Outlander once it hits level 21, which I find amusing

 

[Elate]

After playing the TL2 beta, I must say, it is really, really, really good. I wasn't originally a fan of Torchlight (it was fun but a bit lacking) I came back to it recently and immediately pre-purchased TL2 on steam, and got TL free.

Where as D3, I disagree with the entire real money AH off the bat, so that is a simple no straight away. I dislike games that charge you a full retail and then tag on more cash grabbing techniques, especially when it isn't even an MMO.

 

[Snowblindblitz]

thank you. you did a much better job explaining this to that guy then I did, i just hope he actually reads it.

I did. I still don't share yours and his point of view on it. But I don't like continuing an argument unnecessarily, we both presented our points on the matter, and I still hold my view and him his.

I can respect that. After all, we are in pretty subjective territory. What ruins my experience may not impact yours in any appreciable way. I almost expect to wind up in a shouting match any time I jump in like that, so it's nice that we can settle this amicably lol.

Yeah, I'm enjoying the game. I play with several friends, so overall it has been a great time for me. I feel a lot of people miss the point that games offer different experiences to different people, and so far, D3 hasn't been disappointing me as it has others. I just hope they at some point release an offline mode, as I can still pop in the first two Diablos for a fun time.

 

[Imper1um]

I know it'd be a solid, nearly bug-free game that offers hundreds upon hundreds of hours of monster slaying and loot finding.

I would like to stop you right there, as people have experienced quite a few issues [http://kotaku.com/5912118/diablo-iii-accounts-getting-hacked-gold-and-items-going-missing] even with a game that has been in the works for almost a decade. Heck, even Blizzard has acknowledged [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/117297-Blizzard-Apologizes-for-Diablo-III-Launch-Troubles] that they released a bad game, and the funny thing is that they have said, "Oh, our game has about the same amount of hacking/bugs as any other game." In other words, they just released this game as a mediocre sequel to simply cash in on the Diablo crowd and make more money on something that was really poor execution. They didn't try harder to please anyone, they just simply "released the game" as if they are pressing a "release" on an assembly line.

I just can't find any reason to play Diablo 3. My friends that did purchase it are already abandoning the game, and its been out for less than 2 weeks.

Blizzard seems to be in the habit of destroying their flagship enterprises. I had three friends that played Starcraft 2. All three were serious fanboys of the IP, and one was playing SC1 to the day that he got handed a beta key to SC2 (which he pretty much screamed like a little school girl). All three of them were excited during the Beta, and had fun...supposedly, but then the rush of "the new thing" died out, and they realized that the "awesomeness" of Starcraft died out in StarCraft 2. A friend that just couldn't stop playing SC1 completely lost all interest a week and a half after SC2 came out.

Its simply sad. Blizzard seems to be flailing around trying to figure out how it can recover its awesomeness, but ends up being exactly like DNF. It comes out, and then everyone gets a general 'meh' over the entire IP. I know if it wasn't for DNF, I would have said that the Duke Nukem franchise is one of the best. Its failure cash-ins like Diablo 3, Starcraft 2, and Duke Nukem: Forever that are ruining gaming as we know it.

I just hope this new wave of "crowdfunded" gaming takes off like a rocket. If we get great games out of "cutting out publishers," I will stop visiting GameStop for "Intellectual Property 2013: This time, we added FOUR MORE guns and TWO MORE MAPS!" and start supporting games that are well thought out for the gamers on Kickstarter and other like services.

 

[Rooster Cogburn]

Yeah, I'm enjoying the game. I play with several friends, so overall it has been a great time for me. I feel a lot of people miss the point that games offer different experiences to different people, and so far, D3 hasn't been disappointing me as it has others. I just hope they at some point release an offline mode, as I can still pop in the first two Diablos for a fun time.

I've learned that I can't let other peoples' opinions nag me when I'm having fun with a game. There's not a game out there that somebody hasn't bitched about over something. Different strokes, you know. Glad you're enjoying yourself.

 

[F4LL3N]

SNIP

To be fair, I haven't heard anything bad about the game itself. Have you? Of course, that doesn't excuse the current issues.

EDIT: The gameplay, that is.

 

[Imper1um]

SNIP

To be fair, I haven't heard anything bad about the game itself. Have you? Of course, that doesn't excuse the current issues.

EDIT: The gameplay, that is.

Yes.

1. Lackluster progression after 20 leaves things to be desired.
2. People losing connection before the end of the level forces them to start over at the beginning.
3. Oversaturation of epic items in the AH is causing it really easy to find the best gear without even playing (much).
4. Extreme lag for people playing overseas, regardless if they are playing singleplayer or not.

They didn't do a good job at all, and it will just take a month for the "new smell" to roll off and everyone can see the stench of another lackluster game released by Activision/Blizzard.

 

[F4LL3N]

SNIP

To be fair, I haven't heard anything bad about the game itself. Have you? Of course, that doesn't excuse the current issues.

EDIT: The gameplay, that is.

Yes.

1. Lackluster progression after 20 leaves things to be desired.
2. People losing connection before the end of the level forces them to start over at the beginning.
3. Oversaturation of epic items in the AH is causing it really easy to find the best gear without even playing (much).
4. Extreme lag for people playing overseas, regardless if they are playing singleplayer or not.

They didn't do a good job at all, and it will just take a month for the "new smell" to roll off and everyone can see the stench of another lackluster game released by Activision/Blizzard.

1. That sounds like an issue.
2/4. This doesn't say much about the actual game content. Although I see the problem.
3. I would personally avoid the AH altogether.

What about combat, story, characters, and just general gameplay?

 

[Chimpzy_v1legacy]

Diablo 3

But only because I got a copy for free (no, not pirated or stolen in any way), so I could at least give it try. And I won't complain about it when shit goes wrong, because you know ... free. Now that would be truly entitled.

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